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Old Mar 27, 2018 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mikesanto70
If I'm not mistaken....the 430 hp. Crate and the 525 both have .525 lift cams.........how the f*** can that be.....look it up....i **** u not...

stock ls3 430
204/211. .551/.525 117 LSA

525HP.
226/236. .525/.525. 110 LSA

DOES THE DURATION AND LSA REALLY ADD THAT MUCH.....DIFFERENCES SEEM SO MINIMAL

WHERE THE HECK IS 95HP COMING FROM??


Originally Posted by G Atsma
Yes, yes it does.... MUCH more duration AND a closer LSA add a lot of power. ALL with .525 lift that only require the same springs as a stock LS3.
I have asked myself that question, sounds like a lot of power from just a cam swap, and not a very radical or modern cam design either.

As a comparison I gained about 50whp from my LS7 when going for a much bigger cam:

LS7 stock 211/230 .591/.591 LSA 121 overlap -21.5

GMPP stg 3 233/276 .630/.630 LSA 107 overlap +40.5

Not sure exactly what that would convert into in engine gains with a 5-speed manual transmission but I would be surprised if it's even close to the 95 claimed hp from the LS376/525 over the standard LS3.

Also it's a bitch to drive with that huge overlap, it does not like to be below 2k rpms at all But that cam needs to go regardless with the new MX-5 project, I'll just swap back the stock cam first and then maybe later on I'll look for something a lot more street friendly down the road.

As a general update I ordered the LS376/480 and I'm currently waiting for a boat to pick it up in Houston and ship it to me in Sweden
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Old Mar 27, 2018 | 01:53 AM
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But if you took a stock LS3 and an LS376/525 and put them on the same dyno I guess the LS3 would put out more than 430hp as well?
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The 430HP LS3 rating comes from testing per the SAE standard that all emissions controlled vehicles in the States use to come up with their power/torque numbers. That was the rating in the C6 Corvette application. The 525HP number is GMPP's rating for a non-emissions compliant crate engine -- doubt seriously that it was tested to the same SAE standard as the OEM LS3 was. So - you can't compare the 430 and 525 and conclude, with certainty, that one engine will make 95 more HP than the other. Good compromise on the 376/480....
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Old Mar 27, 2018 | 02:40 PM
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Yea, that's what I was thinking, so it should be interesting to compare them side by side on the same dyno with the same setup.

As I'm not keeping the AC Cobra I couldn't justify the premium of the LS376/525 over the LS376/480. The later will also drive and behave better and still be plenty powerful enough for a 2200lbs kit car. And just a little bit more expensive compared to the standard LS3.
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