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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 08:25 PM
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I found a 2000 V6 Firebird and an 03 5.3 LM7 for cheap. What kind of issues will I run into swapping the motors? I know that I will probably need a K-member, sway bars and coil springs. Will the 5.3 bolt up to the v6's 4L60E tranny?
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Give it a little more time.... meanwhile use the search function on this site to see other examples of what you are doing. There ARE others....
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You don't have to change out the K-member if you don't want to. Hooker makes engine mounting brackets that will allow you to bolt that 5.3 right to your stock V6 K-member using 4th-gen LS1 engine mounts.
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Hooker comes thru again.....
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Default Couple things that come to mind...

1) What intake manifold and fuel rail are you planning on using? If you are going to slap on a LS1 or LS6 intake with a LS1 fuel rail or another aftermarket LS intake then you are going to have to address your fuel system. I don't know if the v6 fuel pump is up to the task, and if it is, you'll still need to convert your fuel system to a returnless-style, single hose feed.
2) You'll likely have to run an additional ignition feed from the fuse block to the engine wire harness because the v8 engine needs an ignition feed for each bank of coils and injectors, the v6 chassis harness should only be feeding one.
3) I remember reading that the v6 trans has a different input shaft and would require a different flexplate and torque converter, however you'll have to double check on the validity of that.

That's all I got for now.
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You don't have to change out the K-member if you don't want to. Hooker makes engine mounting brackets that will allow you to bolt that 5.3 right to your stock V6 K-member using 4th-gen LS1 engine mounts.

Awesome. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to change out the K-member or any of the steering stuff. I may go with beefier coil springs to handle the extra weight though. Thanks for that.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
1) What intake manifold and fuel rail are you planning on using? If you are going to slap on a LS1 or LS6 intake with a LS1 fuel rail or another aftermarket LS intake then you are going to have to address your fuel system. I don't know if the v6 fuel pump is up to the task, and if it is, you'll still need to convert your fuel system to a returnless-style, single hose feed.
2) You'll likely have to run an additional ignition feed from the fuse block to the engine wire harness because the v8 engine needs an ignition feed for each bank of coils and injectors, the v6 chassis harness should only be feeding one.
3) I remember reading that the v6 trans has a different input shaft and would require a different flexplate and torque converter, however you'll have to double check on the validity of that.

That's all I got for now.
I am going to use a ported LS6 intake that comes with fuel rails and TB.
I was thinking about changing the in-tank V6 fuel pump for an in-tank v8 fuel pump.
I have read that the bell housing was different and wouldn't bolt up to the 5.3
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Awesome. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to change out the K-member or any of the steering stuff. I may go with beefier coil springs to handle the extra weight though. Thanks for that.
You can run all the stock steering components, but you may need to install an LS1 steering rack and column if you want to run long-tube headers that are designed for 4th-gen LS1 cars. That would depend on the bend geometry of the specific long-tube headers you want to use, but I know the Hooker 4th-gen headers won't fit with the V6 rack and column. You can keep the stock steering rack and column for sure if you run stock LS1 exhaust manifolds.
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
You can run all the stock steering components, but you may need to install an LS1 steering rack and column if you want to run long-tube headers that are designed for 4th-gen LS1 cars. That would depend on the bend geometry of the specific long-tube headers you want to use, but I know the Hooker 4th-gen headers won't fit with the V6 rack and column. You can keep the stock steering rack and column for sure if you run stock LS1 exhaust manifolds.

I am going to run shorties.
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Originally Posted by Hangman99
I am going to use a ported LS6 intake that comes with fuel rails and TB.
I was thinking about changing the in-tank V6 fuel pump for an in-tank v8 fuel pump.
I have read that the bell housing was different and wouldn't bolt up to the 5.3
Okay, that handles the the require flow rate, however you'll still need to T off the return line as show below:



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I think I may have issues with the truck accessories. Probably won't know until I get everything put together.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Okay, that handles the the require flow rate, however you'll still need to T off the return line as show below:




Would I have to do the same thing if I used an inline fuel pump and regulator?
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Would I have to do the same thing if I used an inline fuel pump and regulator?
I am not sure, there are probably several ways to address the issue.

The truck water pump may interfere with the TB when you are using the car intake manifold. I would do a search on the ways to get around that. One option is to use a spacer kit w/ a LS1 water pump and the rest of the truck accessories.
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Thanks for all of the help and info guys. I had been going back and forth on if I should do this or just buy a Trans-Am.
Do you think I could use the PCM that is in the car right now, use the Silverado PCM or should I get an LS1 PCM?
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Originally Posted by Hangman99
Thanks for all of the help and info guys. I had been going back and forth on if I should do this or just buy a Trans-Am.
Do you think I could use the PCM that is in the car right now, use the Silverado PCM or should I get an LS1 PCM?
If the v6 has the 411 pcm then you can retune it to run the 5.3. I think you should also be able to use the truck PCM.
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Another question. Since the V6's transmission won't bolt up to the 5.3 should I try to find a transmission from an LS1 or could I use a 2wd transmission from the kind of Silverado that the motor came from?
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I would not anything physically larger than a 4L60E as the tunnel isn't large enough. Plus you have the torque arm to deal with.
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Another question. Since the V6's transmission won't bolt up to the 5.3 should I try to find a transmission from an LS1 or could I use a 2wd transmission from the kind of Silverado that the motor came from?
The 4L60E from an LS1 car and a 2wd 4L60E from a truck/suv/van is the same except for the tailshaft housing. To use a 2wd truck 4L60E you'll have to swap on a tailshaft housing from a LS1 4L60E (I can't seem to find out whether there are differences between the v6 and v8 fbody tailshaft housings). If the v6 fbody tailshaft housing is the same as a v8 fbody then you already have what you need.
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