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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Hello. I can't seem to get spark at the plugs. The cam and crank sensors are plugged in and the connectors for each bank's coils are seeing 12V. The fuel pump energizes for 2 seconds after turning the key to the on position and after cranking. Fuel pressure is good. I can connect to the PCM via HPTuners and all looks good so I think the PCM is fine.
I am using homemade coil mounts, but I've grounded the coil mounts and the valve cover to the chassis. I don't have a ground running directly to the heads, just the block (I'm using a metal headgasket).

Engine cranks fine, fuel looks good, HPTuners shows 90-175 rpm while cranking.......HELP!!!!

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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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This sounds like it might be a VATS problem. Did you disable the security in the PCM to over ride the chip in the key?
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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VATS, CAGS, EGR, AIR have all been disabled.
Even so, I was under the impression that the car would start and run for a couple seconds before VATS stepped in?

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This sounds like it might be a VATS problem. Did you disable the security in the PCM to over ride the chip in the key?
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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Do you have a ground running to the coil packs as well. There is a ground wire in the coil pack harness. The A pin on the main connector for each bank is a ground. The A pin on each coil connector should be a ground as well. Are you should you have the low reference hooked up on both banks? Should be pins 60 and 61 on the red connector. I think you may or maynot have covered this but I am just making sure. The other wire going to each coil pack should just be a ground signal from the PCM to "fire" the coil pack. Just making sure the brackets are grounded doesn't mean anything. The coil itself is actually made of a material that insulates it, so that ground wire in the harness must be hooked up.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Thanks for the reply (I've been checking constantly for replies!).

Checking the grounds on the coils is my next step and I'll get to that Thursday night when I get back from work. I'm crossing my fingers that the grounds are somehow to blame.

Anyone know of an easy way to verify that the coils are working?

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Like I said, I think it's a ground signal. I'm uncertain though. The fuel injectors work off a ground so one would deduce that the PCM provides a ground to fire the coil. I would check with a LED or a Multimeter first while cranking to make sure. It is probiably a ground like I said but it MAY be a hot. Probiably just tapping the coil wire from the PCM to a ground should fire it. I'll look to see what the proper service procedure is
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