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Old May 3, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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I used this post https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-swaps/315146-help-ls1-identification.html to figure out the vin.

Laser # of block = 1W2122194

Vin i created = 2G1FP22G0W2122194

If someone could run a carfax or a factory warranty info that would be great. just looking for info on the motor.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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I ran that number on GM's Viss system and it says nothing exists for that VIN......it doesn't exist. Maybe you need to double check it....I'll run it again.
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Originally Posted by Oscar Will
I ran that number on GM's Viss system and it says nothing exists for that VIN......it doesn't exist. Maybe you need to double check it....I'll run it again.
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1998 CAMARO Z28 2-DOOR COUPE
J1840 - ENGINE, UNIVERSAL - REPLACE 27665 miles 04/27/1999
MX0 - 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
M30 - 4 SPEED ELECTRONIC AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WITH OVERDRIVE
LS1 - ENG 5.7 LITER SFI V8 ENGINE
Z28 - CAMARO Z28
K68 - 105 AMP GENERATOR

Found in vis under the last 8 of the vin you had.
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Your actual VIN was 2G1FP22G6W2122194.

I looked at that other thread and whoever came up with that info is completely wrong when they say "the check digit is almost always 0". That is completely false. The check digit is there so that people can't easily make up VIN's and be correct.

The check digit is "0" only once in each 11 cars built.

On F-bodies the check digit sequence is: 0,2,4,6,8,X,1,3,5,7,9,0. That pattern keeps repeating for each sequentially built car.

The other thing they fail to realize is that Firebirds are 2G2FV, NOT FP.
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Yea.....what John said! (I ran the whole VIN)

Last edited by Oscar Will; May 4, 2005 at 12:53 PM. Reason: info
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VIN : 2G1FP22G6W2122194
VEHICLE INFORMATION
Merchandising Model : 1FP87 -1998 CAMARO Z28 2-DOOR COUPE Warranty Start Date : 01/07/1998
BARS Order Type : 70 - RETAIL - STOCK
Delivering Dealer : ED MORSE CHEVROLET
2677 NORTHLAKE BLVD
NORTH PALM BEACH , FL 33403-2045
(561) 844-5262
Selling Source : 13 - CHEVROLET
Site Code : 26314
Business Associate Code : 114784
Service Contract : No Branded Title : No Warranty Block : No PDI Status : Paid
REQUIRED FIELD ACTIONS
Type Number Description Posted Date Status
RC 98047 EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE FAILURES N/A Closed
SERVICE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
Vehicle Has No Current Record Of Outstanding Service Information
ON STAR AND XM SATELLITE RADIO INFORMATION
Vehicle Has No Associated On Star or XM Radio Information.
APPLICABLE WARRANTIES
Description Effective Date Effective Odometer End Date End Odometer
36/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER 01/07/1998 208 miles 01/07/2001 36208 miles
72/100000 SHEET METAL COVERAGE RUST THROUGH 01/07/1998 208 miles 01/07/2004 100208 miles
96/80000 FEDERAL EMISSION CATALYTIC CONV. AND PCM 01/07/1998 208 miles 01/07/2006 80208 miles
36/36000 FEDERAL EMISSION 01/07/1998 208 miles 01/07/2001 36208 miles
CLAIM HISTORY
R.O Date R.O Number Type Labor Operation Odometer Reading
04/27/1999 W89356 # J1840 - ENGINE, UNIVERSAL - REPLACE 27665 miles
04/27/1999 W89356 # Z7903 - 3-DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 27665 miles
12/14/1998 W70626 # Z7902 - 2-DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 18395 miles
11/16/1998 W66627 # J1307 - PISTON, ROD AND/OR RINGS - ONE CYL - BOTH BANKS - REPLACE 17929 miles
11/16/1998 W66627 # R3291 - MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW - ELECTRIC REMOTE CONTROL - LEFT 17929 miles
11/16/1998 W66627 # Z7906 - 6+ DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 17929 miles
11/16/1998 W66627 # Z5001 - VIP FREIGHT/POSTAGE REIMBURESEMENT 17929 miles
09/30/1998 W59864 # V0215 - 98 CV CAMAROS, PN FIREBIRD- EXHAUST GAS RECIR VLE FAILURE 15400 miles
01/09/1998 W17634 # D0447 - CABLES, AIR DISTRIBUTION - AIR CONDITIONING - TEMPERATURE 379 miles
11/24/1997 A22194 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles
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Old May 4, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Speartech
Your actual VIN was 2G1FP22G6W2122194.

I looked at that other thread and whoever came up with that info is completely wrong when they say "the check digit is almost always 0". That is completely false. The check digit is there so that people can't easily make up VIN's and be correct.

The check digit is "0" only once in each 11 cars built.

On F-bodies the check digit sequence is: 0,2,4,6,8,X,1,3,5,7,9,0. That pattern keeps repeating for each sequentially built car.

The other thing they fail to realize is that Firebirds are 2G2FV, NOT FP.
John,

thanks for setting me straight. i should have learned by now that all "facts" on these forums are not completely true and should have passed it on with a qualification. i will correct my file. i wish that i had noted who the originator of this info was so i could pass on your corrections.

thanks, dan
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Thanks everyone for your help! I have 2 more im going to figure out today sometime... so if we could run those that would be great also!!

Thanks again
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OK can we PLEASE run this one also!!!

This is my motor for my 1972 camaro swap.....

Laser # 1Y2131855

Created # VIN 2G1FP22G"check digit "Y2131855

Thanks in advance for the info that you find!
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The actual VIN is 2G1FP22GXY2131855

One of the dealership guys will have to run the history. I can't do that since leaving GM.
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John,

thanks for setting me straight. i should have learned by now that all "facts" on these forums are not completely true and should have passed it on with a qualification. i will correct my file. i wish that i had noted who the originator of this info was so i could pass on your corrections.

thanks, dan
No problem Dan. Now you have the correct info.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Speartech
The actual VIN is 2G1FP22GXY2131855

One of the dealership guys will have to run the history. I can't do that since leaving GM.
THANK YOU!!
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VIN : 2G1FP22GXY2131855
VEHICLE INFORMATION
Merchandising Model : 1FP87 -2000 CAMARO Z28 2-DOOR COUPE Warranty Start Date : 04/09/2000
BARS Order Type : 70 - RETAIL - STOCK
Delivering Dealer : HAYWARD CHEVROLET
25715 MISSION BLVD
HAYWARD , CA 94544-2528
(510) 581-0400
Selling Source : 13 - CHEVROLET
Site Code : 06034
Business Associate Code : 158464
Service Contract : No Branded Title : Yes Warranty Block : Yes PDI Status : Paid
REQUIRED FIELD ACTIONS
Vehicle Has No Current Record Of Outstanding Campaigns
SERVICE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
Vehicle Has No Current Record Of Outstanding Service Information
ON STAR AND XM SATELLITE RADIO INFORMATION
Vehicle Has No Associated On Star or XM Radio Information.
APPLICABLE WARRANTIES
Description Effective Date Effective Odometer End Date End Odometer
36/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER 04/09/2000 119 miles 04/09/2003 36119 miles
72/100000 SHEET METAL COVERAGE RUST THROUGH 04/09/2000 119 miles 04/09/2006 100119 miles
96/80000 FEDERAL EMISSION CATALYTIC CONV. AND PCM 04/09/2000 119 miles 04/09/2008 80119 miles
84/70000 CALIFORNIA SELECT COMPONENT 04/09/2000 119 miles 04/09/2007 70119 miles
36/50000 CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS 04/09/2000 119 miles 04/09/2003 50119 miles
CLAIM HISTORY
R.O Date R.O Number Type Labor Operation Odometer Reading
12/16/2002 074907 # C1421 - WEATHERSTRIP, HATCH OR FRONT ROOF PANEL - LEFT - REPLACE 34310 miles
12/16/2002 074907 # Z5000 - DEALER/RETAILER TRADE(PART OBTAINED LOCALLY) 34310 miles
12/16/2002 074907 # Z7904 - 4-DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 34310 miles
05/02/2002 068226 # H0127 - ROTOR ASSEMBLY - FRONT - BOTH - R&R OR REPLACE 21024 miles
02/20/2002 065988 # C1420 - WEATHERSTRIP, HATCH OR FRONT ROOF PANEL - RIGHT - REPLACE 17353 miles
02/20/2002 065988 # B7620 - MOLDING, ROOF RAIL DRIP - RIGHT - R&R OR REPLACE 17353 miles
02/20/2002 065988 # C0100 - GLASS, FRONT DOOR - RIGHT - ALIGN 17353 miles
02/20/2002 065988 # B4018 - HINGE, FRONT DOOR (BOLT ON) - BOTH RIGHT - REPLACE 17353 miles
02/20/2002 065988 # Z7906 - 6+ DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 17353 miles
08/17/2000 062747 # R0940 - SPEAKER, RADIO - I/P OR WINDSHIELD PILLAR - RIGHT - REPLAC 2860 miles
08/17/2000 062747 # R0950 - SPEAKER, RADIO - REAR DOOR - RIGHT - REPLACE 2860 miles
08/17/2000 062747 # C4001 - PANEL, QUARTER TRIM - LEFT FRONT - R&R OR REPLACE 2860 miles
08/17/2000 062747 # E0033 - CAP, WHEEL CENTER - REAR - REPLACE 2860 miles
06/09/2000 058259 # J9993 - CUSTOMER CONCERN NOT DUPLICATED 1336 miles
06/09/2000 058259 # L2540 - SHIELD, MUFFLER - REPLACE 1336 miles
12/01/1999 231855 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0
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VIN : 2G1FP22GXY2131855
Merchandising Model : 1FP87 -2000 CAMARO Z28 2-DOOR COUPE Warranty
I was told this engine was out of a SS camaro. Does this show that isnt the case?
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I'm going to coattail on this one and ask if either of these vins have the CA emissions RPO.

1GCEC14V51Z263543 I don't know what the RPO's for CA emissions are for this year.

2GCEC19V021239296 RPO for CA emissions in 2002 are NC1 for LEV and NC8 for ULEV.

In Ca you need to replace a CA certified engine with a CA certified engine.
It's so ridiculous, especially since the 83 V6 that came in my Elcamino is a polluting turd, yet they are not making it convenient to swap a cleaner/more efficient engine!!

Thanks fellas......
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YF5 is the CA emissions RPO code

1GCEC14V51Z263543 has the YF5 code

2GCEC19V021239296 has the YF5 code
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Originally Posted by SICMARO
I was told this engine was out of a SS camaro. Does this show that isnt the case?
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VIN 2G1FP22GXY2131855
VEHICLE BUILD
Merchandising Model : 1FP87 -2000 CAMARO Z28 2-DOOR COUPE
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : 1914 kg (4220 lb) Order Number : BZQS4J
Build Date : 12/01/1999 Build Plant : 2Y2F - STE THERESE ASSEMBLY GM-CANADA
OPTION CODES
AG1 - SIX-WAY POWER DRIVER SEAT AK5 - DRIVER & RIGHT FRONT PASSENGER AIR BAGS
AR9 AU0 - KEYLESS REMOTE DOOR LOCK AND TRUNK OPENER
AU3 - POWER DOOR LOCK SYSTEM A31 - POWER WINDOWS
A90 - POWER TRUNK OPENER B35 - COLOR-KEYED CARPETED FLOOR MATS
B84 - BODY SIDE MOLDINGS CC1 - REMOVABLE ROOF PANELS W/LOCKS
C49 - ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER C60 - AIR CONDITIONING
DE4 DG7 - ELEC TWIN REMOTE SPORT MIRRORS
DL5 - ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION DECAL FE2
GU5 - REAR AXLE 3.23 RATIO G80 - LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL-REAR AXLE
IP2 - TRIM INTERIOR DESIGN - AR9 J65 - POWER DISC FRONT & REAR BRAKES
K34 - CRUISE CONTROL-AUTO K43 - GENERATOR 102 AMP
LS1 MX0 - 4-SPD. AUTO. TRANS. W/OVERDRIVE
M30 - 4 SPEED ELECTRONIC AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WITH OVERDRIVE NC1 - CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS LEV
NP5 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL NW9
N96 QFZ
R6Q STE - ST THERESE, GM OF CANADA PLANT CODE
T82 - TWILIGHT SENTINEL HEADLAMPS T96 - FOG LAMPS
UA6 - THEFT DETERRENT ALARM SYSTEM UB3 - GAGE PACKAGE WITH TACHOMETER
UK3 UN0 - AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER
UZ7 U73 - FIXED MAST ANTENNA
VG6 - NOTICE TO BUYER LABEL - 5 MPH BUMPER IMPACT VG8 - NOTICE TO BUYER LABEL
VK3 - FRONT LICENSE PLATE MOUNT V73 - STATEMENT OF VEHICLE CERT.-U.S. /CANADA
YA7 - CALIF. ASSY. LINE EMISSION TEST YF5 - CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS
Z28 - CAMARO Z28 1SD - OPTION PACKAGE 04
1SZ - PREFERRED EQUIPMENT SAVINGS 11Q - PEWTER MET MOLDING
11U - LIGHT PEWTER METALLIC 52I - GRAY INTERIOR
522 6ZL - FRONT SPRING
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Its Not an SS motor, but a SS motor is the exact samething as a Z28 motor
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Originally Posted by ducaT
I'm going to coattail on this one and ask if either of these vins have the CA emissions RPO.

1GCEC14V51Z263543 I don't know what the RPO's for CA emissions are for this year.

2GCEC19V021239296 RPO for CA emissions in 2002 are NC1 for LEV and NC8 for ULEV.

In Ca you need to replace a CA certified engine with a CA certified engine.
It's so ridiculous, especially since the 83 V6 that came in my Elcamino is a polluting turd, yet they are not making it convenient to swap a cleaner/more efficient engine!!

Thanks fellas......
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VIN 1GCEC14V51Z263543
VEHICLE BUILD
Merchandising Model : CC15703 -2001 SILVERADO LS 1500 2WD REG CAB
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : 2769 kg (6106 lb) Order Number : DCHN1Z
Build Date : 03/12/2001 Build Plant : 11Z03
OPTION CODES
AE7 - 40/20/40 SPLIT BENCH RECLINING FRONT SEAT AU0 - KEYLESS REMOTE DOOR LOCK AND TRUNK OPENER
AU3 - POWER DOOR LOCK SYSTEM A31 - POWER WINDOWS
B30 - WHEELHOUSING & FLOOR CARPETING B32 - FRONT COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS
B85 - BRIGHT BODY SIDE MOLDINGS C5M - 6,100 LB GVW RATING
C60 - AIR CONDITIONING WITH AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM DK7 - INTERIOR CUSTOM ROOF CONSOLE
D48 - ELECTRIC EXTERIOR MIRRORS EVA - EVAP EMISSION REQUIREMENT
E62 - SPORTSIDE BODY FWI - FORT WAYNE PLANT
GU6 - REAR AXLE 3.42 RATIO JC5 - 4 WHEEL POWER DISC BRAKES
K18 - ELECTRIC AIR INJECTION SYSTEM K34 - ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROL
K68 - 105 AMP DELCOTRON GENERATOR LR4 - VORTEC 4800 V8 SFI GAS ENGINE
M30 - 4-SPD AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WITH TOW HAUL MODE NC1 - CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS LEV
NP5 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL PF9 - CAST ALUMINUM WHEELS
QNG - P235/75R16 ALS WOL TIRES SLM - STOCK ORDERS
UN0 - AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER & ATC UQ3 - ENHANCED AUDIO SPEAKERS
VB3 - CHROME REAR STEP BUMPER VG3 - FRONT DELUXE CHROMED BUMPER
VG8 - NOTICE TO BUYER LABEL VP6 - NOISE CONTROL
VXS - COMPLETE VEHICLE LABEL V22 - DELUXE FRONT APPEARANCE PKG.
V73 - STATEMENT OF VEHICLE CERT.-U.S. /CANADA XNG - P235/75R16-106S ALS WOL TIRES
X88 - CHEVROLET CONVERSION YA7 - CALIF. ASSY. LINE EMISSION TEST
YD3 - BASE EQUIP FOR SCH GVW PL-FT AX YD6 - BASE REAR SPRING
YE9 - SILVERADO YF5 - CALIFORNIA LOW EMISSION VEHICLE
YNG - P235/75R16-106S ALS WOL TIRES ZNG - P235/75R16-106S ALS WOL TIRES
ZY1 - SOLID PAINT Z83 - STANDARD CHASSIS PACKAGE
1SB - LS DECOR INCLUDES: * AIR CONDITIONING W/AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM * DUAL POWER MIRRORS * AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER * CHROME GRILLE & CHROME STEEL WHEELS * ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROL * POWER LOCKS & WINDOWS * REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY WITH CONTENT THEFT ALARM * LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHL * BODY SIDE MOLDINGS * 40/20/40 SEATING W/RECLINE AND ARMREST STORAGE 1SZ - PREFERRED EQUIPMENT SAVINGS
12D - GRAPHITE CUSTOM CLOTH 12I - GRAPHITE INTERIOR TRIM
14U - MED CHARCOAL GRAY METALLIC 6MS - COMPONENT FRT LH COMP. SEL SUSP
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VIN 2GCEC19V021239296
VEHICLE BUILD
Merchandising Model : CC15753 -2002 SILVERADO LS 1500 2WD EXT CAB
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : 2815 kg (6207 lb) Order Number : DSTXM8
Build Date : 11/30/2001 Build Plant : 22153
OPTION CODES
AE7 - 40/20/40 SPLIT BENCH RECLINING FRONT SEAT AJ1 - DEEP TINTED GLASS
AM7 - FOLDING REAR SEAT AU0 - KEYLESS REMOTE DOOR LOCK AND TRUNK OPENER
AU3 - POWER DOOR LOCK SYSTEM A31 - POWER WINDOWS
B30 - WHEELHOUSING & FLOOR CARPETING B32 - FRONT COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS
B33 - REAR COLOR KEYED FLOOR MATS B85 - BRIGHT BODY SIDE MOLDINGS
C60 - AIR CONDITIONING WITH AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM DF5 - INT R/V MIRROR, LIGHT SENSITIVE W/OUTSIDE TEMP & COMPASS
DK7 - INTERIOR CUSTOM ROOF CONSOLE D48 - ELECTRIC EXTERIOR MIRRORS
EVA - EVAP EMISSION REQUIREMENT E63 - FLEETSIDE BODY
GU6 - REAR AXLE 3.42 RATIO JC5 - 4 WHEEL POWER DISC BRAKES
K34 - CRUISE CONTROL K68 - 105 AMP DELCOTRON GENERATOR
LR4 - VORTEC 4800 V8 SFI GAS ENGINE M30 - 4-SPD AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WITH TOW HAUL MODE
NC1 - CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS LEV NP5 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL
OSG - OSHAWA ASSEMBLY PCM - ELECTRICAL CONVENIENCE PACKAGE
PDD - COLOR-KEYED CARPET PF9 - CAST ALUMINUM WHEELS
QNG - P235/75R16 ALS WOL TIRES Q4B - 6,200 LB GVW RATING
SLM - STOCK ORDERS T96 - FRONT FOG LAMPS
UN0 - AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER & ATC UQ3 - ENHANCED AUDIO SPEAKERS
VB3 - CHROME REAR STEP BUMPER VG3 - FRONT DELUXE CHROMED BUMPER
VG8 - NOTICE TO BUYER LABEL VP6 - NOISE CONTROL
VXS - COMPLETE VEHICLE LABEL V22 - DELUXE FRONT APPEARANCE PKG.
V73 - STATEMENT OF VEHICLE CERT.-U.S. /CANADA XNG - P235/75R16-106S ALS WOL TIRES
X88 - CHEVROLET CONVERSION YA7 - CALIF. ASSY. LINE EMISSION TEST
YD3 - BASE EQUIP FOR SCH GVW PL-FT AX YD6 - BASE REAR SPRING
YE9 - SILVERADO YF5 - CALIFORNIA LOW EMISSION VEHICLE
YNG - P235/75R16-106S ALS WOL TIRES ZNG - P235/75R16-106S ALS WOL TIRES
ZY1 - SOLID PAINT Z83 - STANDARD CHASSIS PACKAGE
1SB - LS DECOR INCLUDES: * AIR CONDITIONING W/AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM * DUAL POWER MIRRORS * CHROME GRILLE * ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROL * POWER LOCKS & WINDOWS * REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY WITH CONTENT THEFT ALARM * LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHL * BODY SIDE MOLDINGS * 40/20/40 SEATING W/RECLINE AND ARMREST STORAGE 1SZ - PREFERRED EQUIPMENT SAVINGS
11U - LT PEWTER METALLIC 12D - GRAPHITE CUSTOM CLOTH TRIM
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Thank you very much!!!!!

Then the last piece of my puzzle is this.
The 01 engine 2GCEC.............9296 has exhaust manifolds on it with no ports for EGR or AIR system. I know that mid year 01 a lot of the trucks dropped EGR, but what's with the AIR?
Unless there are ports that are downstream from the manifolds, yet upstream from the converters.
I'm lost.
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