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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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OK, I thought Rybar had the S&P mounts, but a friend has the ATS mounts and Hookers and one tube is just barely touching the box, I will talk to Tyler right now, and when I get back from vacation get the headers and add fitment pics, Vacation starts the 18th,
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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I have the ATS mounts and Hookers. Probably also worth mentioning that I have 327 stands which required grinding the lips off of one of the Energy Suspensions mounts to get them to drop down on the stands. Anyway, I probably was able to get the headers in without dimpling, but they touched the steering box in 2 places and the pitman arm. I wanted 1/4 air gap minimum, hence the beating in my pics on another thread.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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I think the only difference in stands is SBC/BBC, but I'm going to check,
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve68
I think the only difference in stands is SBC/BBC, but I'm going to check,
Not sure on the f-body, but a-body has 2 different small block mounts. One is short and wide, the other tall and narrow. They have different clamshells (the metal part that mounts to the crossmember.)

Short and Wide


Tall and Narrow


http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/univ2.html
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth71
Not sure on the f-body, but a-body has 2 different small block mounts. One is short and wide, the other tall and narrow. They have different clamshells (the metal part that mounts to the crossmember.)
F-body is the same. According to the Energy Suspension catalog, looks like 69-72 302/350/396/400 use tall-and-narrow, everything else 67-72 uses short-and-wide. 73-92 use the "clam-shell" mounts.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve68
I think the only difference in stands is SBC/BBC, but I'm going to check,
Not exactly... http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#EngineMounting

According to CRG, all 67-68 SBC used the same stands. 69 302 and 350 use a different stand (and tall-and-narrow mount). And from what I've heard from ATS and AutoKraft, there may be some undocumented slight variations of the 67-68 SBC stands.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Thats basically what Ricks catalog says, BUT, I think I'm going to try the SW header, I called Tyler but no return call,
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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i think i'll order a set, thanks leonpiper, they look awesome. id polish them up and rock those for sure.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 67RSCamaroVette
i think i'll order a set, thanks leonpiper, they look awesome. id polish them up and rock those for sure.
What are you running on your current setup ?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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What are you running on your current setup ?
modified pacesetters, the pass fits great, but the driver i had to heavily modify. the pitman arm ball joint bumps the tip of the header, it's annoying. itd be fine if i had a steering rack.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Guys, I will have some pics up after tommorrow night if you want to see the SW clearance with the stock steering box and S&P plates.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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I'll be looking foward to them Ryan,
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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hey steve and rybar took some pics of my sw headers and steering box with u-joint mike. http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4...hp?img=4756325
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Mike looks good, got a P/N you wanna share?? and whats it fit?? IROC in my car with a Factory tilt column.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve68
Mike looks good, got a P/N you wanna share?? and whats it fit?? IROC in my car with a Factory tilt column.
Check this link Steve, there are two PN's (one is for polished, the other is not)

http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/i...79_237_250_251
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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thanks but what about the U-joint P/N,
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Steve68 where you buddy, here's what I got. Drivers header tube #1 does touch the steering box ever so slightly. I could probably slide a sheet of paper through there. I also have more pics here showing the clearance against the subframe and a pic of the Borgeson u-joint that I had to use. The joint I ran was 13/16"-36 spline (Steering box end) and 1"-48 spline (column end) but I did find out an IROC 3rd gen box is 3/4"-30 spline. So measure your steering box output shaft with a digital caliper.

see pics: http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...20head%20swap/




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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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I have a 3rd gen box!, Boy that is tight!!! but it looks good, one little dimple with a piece of pipe wont hurt,

I'll be getting headers when I get back, Vacation time, So I'll be gone for a week,

P/N for the U-Joint????
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve68
P/N for the U-Joint????
Steve I can give you the p/n but, like I was trying to say it may be a different size. I listed the sizes that I went with.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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I reread thanks, I little slow now n then, hahaha, I'll measure it up Ry, thanks a ton,
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