1st gen header question
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Alright I searched for a little while and found somebody that was going to try what i am going to do but didnt say whether it would work or not. I am trying to see if the SW LT's will work with the ATS motor mounts. I think they might have to be massaged just a little. Does anybody know of any LT's that work with the ATS mounts that you dont have to modify besides ATS's LT's just because I dont know if I want to drop 2,000 on a set of LT's even though I would if I could and they look extremely nice
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im not sure what the diff is with the ats mounts but i have the stainless works longtubes and they clear fine. but i have the one form the car shop in olly's sticky http://carshop.carshopinc.com/produ..._id/74328/LS1GM . and im not running a power box. the maunual may be smaller crwating more clearance. if this helps
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The ATS plates flip the engine mount upside down to drop the engine down about 3/4" lower than the S&P/CarShop style plates.
My plates are actually Autokraft which are clones of the ATS plates:
My plates are actually Autokraft which are clones of the ATS plates:
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Originally Posted by Rodder
The ATS plates flip the engine mount upside down to drop the engine down about 3/4" lower than the S&P/CarShop style plates.
My plates are actually Autokraft which are clones of the ATS plates:
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My plates are actually Autokraft which are clones of the ATS plates:
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That is right and by the looks of it you have their oil pan also. I also have the autokraft oil pan. How do you like it? How did you go about getting an oil pressure reading? thanks
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I ran the hooker long tubes with my Ls2 and s&p mounts and only had to put
1 small ding in the header where the pitman arm goes onto the bottom
of the gearbox. You can't even see the ding unless your under the car.
When I say ding I mean the size of a nickel. Good Luck
1 small ding in the header where the pitman arm goes onto the bottom
of the gearbox. You can't even see the ding unless your under the car.
When I say ding I mean the size of a nickel. Good Luck
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Originally Posted by ryanvv355
Also interested in how you guys feel about the Autokraft pan, I'm about to get one.
All i can say right now is that it looks awesome and you are able to use the stock oil pan gasket and dont have to use a remote oil filter system which is really what i did not want to have to do. Oh and you get to have an awesome capacity instead of having to notch your oil pan and it is cheaper than say ATS's
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i dont mean to sound dumb , but here goes.... are those mounts suppossed to be upside down or is tjere a chance you can swap sides with the ats parts so the mounts install right side up and that would raise the motor up and possibly clear the headers. no?
this is the pass side of mine
you see how it slopes toward the back as it goes down on the right side and yours slopes toward the front it looks like.
this is the pass side of mine
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you see how it slopes toward the back as it goes down on the right side and yours slopes toward the front it looks like.
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Originally Posted by Brandon Smith
That is right and by the looks of it you have their oil pan also. I also have the autokraft oil pan. How do you like it? How did you go about getting an oil pressure reading? thanks
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Originally Posted by leonpiper69
i dont mean to sound dumb , but here goes.... are those mounts suppossed to be upside down or is tjere a chance you can swap sides with the ats parts so the mounts install right side up and that would raise the motor up and possibly clear the headers. no?
you see how it slopes toward the back as it goes down on the right side and yours slopes toward the front it looks like.
you see how it slopes toward the back as it goes down on the right side and yours slopes toward the front it looks like.
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Don't forget that if you lower the engine 3/4", the headers will also be lower ...
The best fitting combo I've seen on a first gen LSx was Hooker headers with Hooker engine mount plates - at least 1/2" clearance everywhere, which doesn't sound like much except that so many other combos have "negative clearance"
The best fitting combo I've seen on a first gen LSx was Hooker headers with Hooker engine mount plates - at least 1/2" clearance everywhere, which doesn't sound like much except that so many other combos have "negative clearance"
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I swapped an LS7 into my 69 Camaro, used Hooker plates with the ATS mounts. Moved the mount hats forward 1/2" down 3/8". The Super Comp Hookers fit without dings, dents, scapes, otherwords perfect! Cleared everything.
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Originally Posted by ryanvv355
Also interested in how you guys feel about the Autokraft pan, I'm about to get one.
there were a few issues w/ the pan.
-if you installing pan w/ tranny attached, getting to the pan's rear bolts is a tight squeeze.
-takes about 30mins to completely drain pan, due to baffles
-can't use stock a/c. the 5.3L attaches a/c brackets to oem oil pan.
-the filter-adaptor mount holes in the pan were too small, had to drill them out
-oem bolts are too long for pan due to thinner lip, need shorter bolts or washers
in reply to the original poster. i have the autokraft mounts & have ordered s&p headers. ordered thru gpsuperstore GP 2 months ago, but still @ least 3 weeks out. i'll report back here when i receive the headers.