WHOOPS- new oil pan needed
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Staging Lane
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From: Taunton, UK
WHOOPS- new oil pan needed I've just managed to put a great big hole in the corner of my oil pan 
of my 01 firebird LS1. I've tried summit but they don't do them- where the hell do i get one from quick? I need it shipping to my shipping broker in NY for onward shipment to me!
Thanks
of my 01 firebird LS1. I've tried summit but they don't do them- where the hell do i get one from quick? I need it shipping to my shipping broker in NY for onward shipment to me!Thanks
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Staging Lane
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From: Taunton, UK
i thought about it - especially being here in the UK, but the two people who's welding skills i trust both reckon there is a strong risk of cracking the Ali- unless anyone knows a way round it?
It can be welded depending on the size of the hole. For sale section here for a stock one.
Here is a Canton aftermarket for $350 on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CANTO...ayphotohosting
Here is a Canton aftermarket for $350 on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CANTO...ayphotohosting
If you do find someone to weld it.. search in the forum for threads that address welding the pan.... a few suggestion;
Mount or bold down the pan to a flat surface or a block to keep it from wrapping.
Clean the pan as best you can (someone suggested the Disk washer also) to remove all oils.
Perheat the pan to 400 Degree.
and other..
Mount or bold down the pan to a flat surface or a block to keep it from wrapping.
Clean the pan as best you can (someone suggested the Disk washer also) to remove all oils.
Perheat the pan to 400 Degree.
and other..
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On The Tree
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Might be worth trying Andy Burrows at GD, he installs oodles of LS's and mucks about with dry sumps etc, so may (only may) have a used one kicking around??? (01949 843299)
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Hi
We welded a patch into our '04 GTO oil pan that we are using in our BMW-LS1 swap. We used 5052 aluminum for the patch and had it TIG welded by an experienced aluminum welder who used 5356 3/32 dia rod. We had a rather big patch to weld in and did have some distortion. The welder pre-heated the pan before welding. You should be ok welding a small hole or a crack. Do your best to clean the oil residue off of the pan. It is cast of A356 aluminum.
We welded a patch into our '04 GTO oil pan that we are using in our BMW-LS1 swap. We used 5052 aluminum for the patch and had it TIG welded by an experienced aluminum welder who used 5356 3/32 dia rod. We had a rather big patch to weld in and did have some distortion. The welder pre-heated the pan before welding. You should be ok welding a small hole or a crack. Do your best to clean the oil residue off of the pan. It is cast of A356 aluminum.
GMpartsdirect.com $160.99 part #12558762 I've heard bad thing about roles on the edges of the canton pan that makes it very difficult to install/tighten the bolts...do not get it!
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GM Parts Direct dont sell to the UK....whixh isnt very nice of them.
Pugwash, try mike.johnson2 AT ntlworld.com ( Boosted LS1 username on this forum, so he might also pick up a PM. )
There is a good chance he might have one, or know someone who has.
Welding these sumps isnt easy. They warp, and crack, but it can be done. If its only a hole in the bottom, then there is a chance you could be ok though.
Pugwash, try mike.johnson2 AT ntlworld.com ( Boosted LS1 username on this forum, so he might also pick up a PM. )
There is a good chance he might have one, or know someone who has.
Welding these sumps isnt easy. They warp, and crack, but it can be done. If its only a hole in the bottom, then there is a chance you could be ok though.
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The other solution, which hasn't been mentioned as of yet, is having a pan fabricated.
There is absolutely nothing that requires the pan to be made of cast aluminum. And for certain applications (like sandrails, rock-crawlers, and other applications where oilpan to ground contact may be likely) a steel pan would be much preferred. A fabricated steel pan will bend / deflect / give, where-as the cast aluminum pan is broken.
I fabricated the pan in my Bravada (with 6.0L LQ4 power) from 16ga cold rolled steel sheet and 3/8" x 2" barstock for the flanges. Yes, it took a while, but I managed to also keep it reasonably distortion free (welded in little bits with MIG). And I'm not an expert welder or fabricator (but I'm no rookie either), so I don't think it's completely out of reach of the average guy. I built it with a bandsaw, drillpress, sheetmetal snips, jig saw, and Mig welder. For the oil filter provisions, I welded some AN fittings into the flange and used a commercially available oil filter mount with some -8 AN line.
May not be the easiest and fastest solution, but it is an alternate solution that doesn't involve shipping stuff across the pond. For my truck, it was the only viable solution.
'JustDreamin'
There is absolutely nothing that requires the pan to be made of cast aluminum. And for certain applications (like sandrails, rock-crawlers, and other applications where oilpan to ground contact may be likely) a steel pan would be much preferred. A fabricated steel pan will bend / deflect / give, where-as the cast aluminum pan is broken.
I fabricated the pan in my Bravada (with 6.0L LQ4 power) from 16ga cold rolled steel sheet and 3/8" x 2" barstock for the flanges. Yes, it took a while, but I managed to also keep it reasonably distortion free (welded in little bits with MIG). And I'm not an expert welder or fabricator (but I'm no rookie either), so I don't think it's completely out of reach of the average guy. I built it with a bandsaw, drillpress, sheetmetal snips, jig saw, and Mig welder. For the oil filter provisions, I welded some AN fittings into the flange and used a commercially available oil filter mount with some -8 AN line.
May not be the easiest and fastest solution, but it is an alternate solution that doesn't involve shipping stuff across the pond. For my truck, it was the only viable solution.
'JustDreamin'
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Staging Lane
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Taunton, UK
thanks for all the replies guys- i will chase down some pans in the Uk - thanks Jim and Stevie for suggestions- i'm going to assume that boostedLS1 on here is the same boostedLS1 as on pistonheads. I'll contact him there! Will also speak to Andy at GD as he's a helpful chap.
If no luck there then i'll PM some of you guys in the US who say you have some spare ones.
Many thanks
James
If no luck there then i'll PM some of you guys in the US who say you have some spare ones.
Many thanks
James
