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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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I traded my 98 z28 in for a 2002 pewter metalic trans am ws6 convertable with a white vinyl top. I'm having trouble finding out how many ws6 converts came with white tops. Can anyone help me?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28-CamaroDave
I traded my 98 z28 in for a 2002 pewter metalic trans am ws6 convertable with a white vinyl top. I'm having trouble finding out how many ws6 converts came with white tops. Can anyone help me?
Are you sure its an OEM top?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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67 WS6's had the white convertible top regardless of car color. Code 10T will verify it is the original top color. 175 WS6's were Pewter this is both coupe and convertible. Code 11U is the color. I can't find a breakdown using both codes together to give an amount for that combination but there probably aren't many.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Interesting, never seen a Pewter w/ White top before. What color interior?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 94Z28rag
Are you sure its an OEM top?
yes it's oem
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Originally Posted by 94Z28rag
Are you sure its an OEM top?
Originally Posted by The Manalishi
67 WS6's had the white convertible top regardless of car color. Code 10T will verify it is the original top color. 175 WS6's were Pewter this is both coupe and convertible. Code 11U is the color. I can't find a breakdown using both codes together to give an amount for that combination but there probably aren't many.
Yes it has the 10T code
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicBoom
Interesting, never seen a Pewter w/ White top before. What color interior?
The interior is black leather. I'll have pictures come spring, it's under a cover in my garage right now.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Wow. White and pewter huh.
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I'm trying to picture mine with a white top; not easy. Can't wait to see the pics.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicBoom
I'm trying to picture mine with a white top; not easy. Can't wait to see the pics.
This weekend I'll take the cover off and take a few pictures to show you guys.
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Originally Posted by Z28-CamaroDave
This weekend I'll take the cover off and take a few pictures to show you guys.
Awesome. Can't wait to see it - never seen that combination before.
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Yep thats different, but I bet it looks pretty good.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Manalishi
67 WS6's had the white convertible top regardless of car color. Code 10T will verify it is the original top color. 175 WS6's were Pewter this is both coupe and convertible. Code 11U is the color. I can't find a breakdown using both codes together to give an amount for that combination but there probably aren't many.
A little more info on the '02 WS6 production (is it M6 or A4?):

WS6 RAM AIR COUPES 12,212 UNITS (16.9% OF PRODUCTION)

6,828 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
5,384 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
8,115 units had NW9 Traction Control

10,601 had FE9 Emissions
833 had NG1 Emissions
775 had YF5 Emissions

1,349 units were Z15 Collector Editions

10U 986 units
11U 1,585 units
13U 1,112 units
28U 1,327 units
41U 3,630 units
54U (C/E) 1,349 units
71U 525 units
81U 1,698 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLES 2,696 UNITS (3.7% OF PRODUCTION)

1,176 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
1,520 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
1,971 units had NW9 Traction Control


2,250 had FE9 Emissions
255 had NG1 Emissions
189 had YF5 Emissions

1,042 were Z15 Collector Editions


67 units had 10T white conv. top
2,410 units had 41T Black conv. top
219 units had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 164 units
11U 175 units
13U 131 units
28U 204 units
41U 563 units
54U (C/E) 1,042 units
71U 71 units
81U 346 units



WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL


10U 454 units
11U 963 units
13U 613 units
28U 738 units
41U 2,066 units
54U 842 units
71U 304 units
81U 848 units


WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 532 units
11U 622 units
13U 499 units
28U 589 units
41U 1,564 units
54U 507 units
71U 221 units
81U 850 units

WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED

10U 56 units
11U 71 units
13U 51 units
28U 74 units
41U 221 units
54U 554 units
71U 30 units
81U 119 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 108 units
11U 104 units
13U 80 units
28U 130 units
41U 342 units
54U 488 units
71U 41 units
81U 227 units
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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it's A4, the 67 units made with, conv w/white top includes Trans Am and the collectors edition. So I thinking mine being a Trans Am WS6 W/White top should be a low number.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28-CamaroDave
it's A4, the 67 units made with, conv w/white top includes Trans Am and the collectors edition. So I thinking mine being a Trans Am WS6 W/White top should be a low number.
I'm pretty sure all the C/Es had black tops. But yeah, a little more than 1/2 of the WS6 'verts had A4s, so probably less than 40 white-top WS6 'verts w/ A4 were built, and assuming those were evenly distributed across the paint colors, even less that were pewter. White tops are definately unusual.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
I'm pretty sure all the C/Es had black tops. But yeah, a little more than 1/2 of the WS6 'verts had A4s, so probably less than 40 white-top WS6 'verts w/ A4 were built, and assuming those were evenly distributed across the paint colors, even less that were pewter. White tops are definately unusual.
this weekend I took some pictures of it in my garage I'll get them posted tonight.
OH yeah it's got black leather interior, if that makes a difference.
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Not to steal any thunder, but how many triple black ws6s were built in 02, with the Hurst M6?

I havent seen anything the same year yet, but I am sure it wasnt that rare.

Also where do you look for the codes you are using to ID the numbers??
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Originally Posted by 02_ramair_ta
Not to steal any thunder, but how many triple black ws6s were built in 02, with the Hurst M6?

I havent seen anything the same year yet, but I am sure it wasnt that rare.

Also where do you look for the codes you are using to ID the numbers??

Sorry, here's the 2002 info which includes the color decoder ring......

2002 GM Pontiac Firebird Build Counts - Build at St. Therese Assembly Thursday January 13th 2005


A total of 30,690 Firebirds were built for worldwide distribution..
Sold orders (ordered by customer specifically) 4,454
Fleet orders 721

5,192 were Convertible models

23,648 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels

26,391 had FE9 Federal Emissions System
2,018 had NG1 Northeast Emissions System
2,269 had YF5 California Emissions System

20,769 had the LS1 Gen III V8 Engine (67.7%)
9,921 had the L36 3800 Series V6 (32.3%)

16,837 had NW9 Traction Control (54.9%)
5,934 had U1S 12 Disc CD changer (19.3%)

14,908 had the WS6 Ram Air Package (48.6%)

1,500 had the WU6 Firehawk Package (4.9%)

2,391 had the Z15 Collector Package (7.8%)


Convertible Top Colors:

10T White 137 units
41T Black 4,455 units
56T Taupe 600 units


Total Firebird Color Breakdown:

10U White 2,918 9.5%
11U Pewter 4,302 14.0%
13U Silver 3,089 10.1%
28U Dk Blue 3,290 10.7%
41U Black 7,572 24.7%
44U Maple 867 2.8%
54U C/E Yellow 2,391 7.8%
71U S.O.M. 1,208 3.9%
81U Red 5,053 16.5%


Interior Breakdown:

19B Ebony Cloth 7,378 24.0%
192 Ebony Leath 14,832 48.3%
194 C/E Leather 2,391 7.8%
52B Taupe Cloth 1,078 3.5%
522 Taupe Leather 2,230 7.3%
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that is definately an interesting combo...by the way johnnyb where do you find out this info?
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that is definately an interesting combo...by the way johnnyb where do you find out this info?
Keeping my eye on these boards and grabbing any legit info I find. I've been working on a spreadsheet for the 4-th gen Firebirds over the years, just need to finish it and get it posted for all to refer to.
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