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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Are you guys saying that a cam , gear, fully bolt on camaro will lose to a STOCK zo6 in a drag race? I'm a vette owner who DRAG RACES and I don't ride around in my car thinking that everyone is afraid of me just because I drive a Vette. I see why MOST if not ALL Fbody owners think of us vette owners as Jerks!!!!! LISTEN.. A fully bolt on, geared up, cam only Camaro/Firebird/Trans-AM car will/would/and IS going to absolutely DESTROY a STOCK z06 whether its a 01,02,03,04 ! Some of you vette guys are MORONS clouded by who knows what . I know ...**** ! Come down here , I know plenty guys that will be happy to show you, and after they finish, I'll caniblize you too..for money of course ( You drive a vette, I know you got it ) !
Hey dumb ***... read my post where I responded to the fact that all white00ws6 has is a cam and a Borla cat back (read second post). He said NOTHING about headers or full bolt ons. That will NOT beat a stock Z06.

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Nytmare
" a stock Z runs 12.4's at this slippery track " So ! Does that mean every Z owner on the planet can come to your track and run a 12.4 ? How about them 01's ? You are just out driving your friend, and there are always exceptions to every rule, but for the most part it usually ends in a LOSS with a stock vette and a neatly modded fbody. And as for the top side stuff, of course your going to win ( more areo...) , but if he has more power then your ( aero ) can go to *****...I'll continue this later ...got to go now,
Nope,it means everyone on the planet can probably do a little better as he had the car for 2 days and was bone stock..
My buddy gets a 1.9 60 ft time to my 2.2 (run flats),he has a 6 speed /3:42 gears,to my auto 3:15 gears.
I was just posting that for the guy to compair too,if the other car was a z,he would not have won.
The Lambo orange ZO6 vert is a 2001,12.8 is that cars times.
Sorry if i offended any fbody owners,i was just stickin up for the vette,seems like when a guy sticks up for his vette,he's an instant a-hole.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Hey DeanO , or whatever the **** your name is . You the dumb ***. If he put a cam in the car idiot, why wouldn't he have full bolt ons ( STUPID) ! There is nobody on this forum with a stock car with a Cam ( MORON) ! If I ask for your opinion, I'll give it to you ! Just because he didn't say he had headers, pulleys, maf,intake, doesn't mean he doesn't have it .He hoped you had SINCE enough to realize that he had all the other parts, but I see you don't . **** you and your thread !
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Hey DeanO , or whatever the **** your name is . You the dumb ***. If he put a cam in the car idiot, why wouldn't he have full bolt ons ( STUPID) ! There is nobody on this forum with a stock car with a Cam ( MORON) ! If I ask for your opinion, I'll give it to you ! Just because he didn't say he had headers, pulleys, maf,intake, doesn't mean he doesn't have it .He hoped you had SINCE enough to realize that he had all the other parts, but I see you don't . **** you and your thread !
Dude you have issues, Why would anyone assume all of that? Nobody asked for your opinion on the matter so why the hell did you give it??? Nobodies started calling people names until you showed up. I understand what you are saying, when I had my LT1 modded car I was killing LS1 cars left and right and got no respect.

Anyways it is VERY possible and not a BAD idea to take a Stock Z28 put a cam like say a LPE GT3-2 and borla exaust on it. That would be a nice setup, would it run 11's no but it would be a big improvement on stock. There have been a number of cam only no bolt ons cars. Plus why the hell would you assume. My WS6 got 415rwhp with 230 cam, hand ported stock vavle unmilled heads, Kooks and lid. NOTHING else was I a MORON for that setup??? (well the whole reason it was more than headers at the time was a striped header hole so yes I guess I was a Moron on that case )

Nobody talked any **** about the F-body, although there are alot of Vette owners like the original guy this poster was talking about that are idiots, just like alot of SS and WS6 guys think there car is WAY faster because they have a hood and wheels. BUT I think at least 95% of the people on this board are smarter than that so how bout giving them a break.

Plus if you read my thread you will see where I DO THINK a CAM and Borla car could take a Z06, although I think weight and stock F-body suspension are against him. You figure you could get 350-360 rwhp out of a cam only borla 01+ if you had a strong car to begin with. It would be all driver at that point. **** that is being nice. It is actually all driver with a Stock SS against a Z06 so all this is just a bunch of bench racing.

I guess I'll just take my SLOW *** PIECE OF **** 01 Z06 for a drive now.

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Dude you have issues, Why would anyone assume all of that?

Plus if you read my thread you will see where I DO THINK a CAM and Borla car could take a Z06, although I think weight and stock F-body suspension are against him. You figure you could get 350-360 rwhp out of a cam only borla 01+ if you had a strong car to begin with. It would be all driver at that point. **** that is being nice. It is actually all driver with a Stock SS against a Z06 so all this is just a bunch of bench racing.

I guess I'll just take my SLOW *** PIECE OF **** 01 Z06 for a drive now.

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Yep, he has issues all right...LOL! Never make assumptions first of all. Second, there is no need to be an ******* to everyone, so I couldn't help but give him some attitude in return.
And you forgot a Z06 typically puts down anywhere from 352 - 358 rwhp STOCK. Mine did 362 rwhp STOCK. Anyway, at 3100 lbs, the Z06 has about 400-500 lbs of weight advantage and is geared lower. So if they had the same rwhp, the Z06 should win due to those significant advantages.

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nytmare
Hey DeanO , or whatever the **** your name is . You the dumb ***. If he put a cam in the car idiot, why wouldn't he have full bolt ons ( STUPID) ! There is nobody on this forum with a stock car with a Cam ( MORON) ! If I ask for your opinion, I'll give it to you ! Just because he didn't say he had headers, pulleys, maf,intake, doesn't mean he doesn't have it .He hoped you had SINCE enough to realize that he had all the other parts, but I see you don't . **** you and your thread !
Hey no one asked for YOUR opinion *** licker...LOL! And "SENSE" is the correct spelling you illiterate mommas boy. And this isn't my thread ...LOL! You sound like a imature teenager, I hope your not older. *roll eyes*

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by the way, we raced and i beat him.. i only have a cam and borla muffler. (stock cat-back..i'm a racer on a budget )

If he's on a budget and said he ONLY has a cam and a Borla muffler, why would I assume that he has a full exhaust system and all of the mods? Who is the moron here? You obviously don't understand what you read!

And what is this: If I ask for your opinion, I'll give it to you !
What? I think the saying is: If I want your opinion, I'll ask for it.
Thus proving once again YOU are the true MORON...LOL!!!

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean-o
Yep, he has issues all right...LOL! Never make assumptions first of all. Second, there is no need to be an ******* to everyone, so I couldn't help but give him some attitude in return.
And you forgot a Z06 typically puts down anywhere from 352 - 358 rwhp STOCK. Mine did 362 rwhp STOCK. Anyway, at 3100 lbs, the Z06 has about 400-500 lbs of weight advantage and is geared lower. So if they had the same rwhp, the Z06 should win due to those significant advantages.

Dean

LOL I agree with you but the "key" word there is Should again in Bench racing yes the Z06 has the advantage for awhile, but in the real world it can be different story.

I'm not talking any smack remember I own a Z06
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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LOL I agree with you but the "key" word there is Should again in Bench racing yes the Z06 has the advantage for awhile, but in the real world it can be different story.

I'm not talking any smack remember I own a Z06
I understand, if you look at my sig I used to own a 99 SS. It had a full exhaust system and C1 cam (222/222 .566/.566 112 lsa), high flow air box, ported MAF, and it dynoed 370 rwhp. It was a 6 speed and my friend with a Z06 that was stock with the exception of a Blackwing filter could beat me. He didn't run away, but he didn't lose either. That is why I made the statement that a cam and cat back car won't have enough horsepower to overcome the gearing and weight advantage. Now if the driver of the Z06 isn't a good driver, then that could change. But I am assuming that both drivers are competent enough to drive their vehicle to it's limits.

I also assumed if someone had a full exhaust system that they would say so and not just claim a Borla muffler and then make the statement that they are a racer on a budget! white00ws6, do you have a full exhaust sytem or any other performance components you haven't named?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Damn those are some nice numbers maybe a nice cam for my 98

Lots if's in any arrangment though so you to me the only blanket comment you can make is a Stock Z06 will beat a stock SS. Case in point my friend has 01 A4 c5 on the street he would kill my 93 H\C car. At the track it was different I'd get a huge jump on him although I think in a half mile run he'd take me.

We are in agreement, I'm just playing devils advocate, but I STILL want to see your damn dyno graph!!!!!
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Damn those are some nice numbers maybe a nice cam for my 98

Lots if's in any arrangment though so you to me the only blanket comment you can make is a Stock Z06 will beat a stock SS. Case in point my friend has 01 A4 c5 on the street he would kill my 93 H\C car. At the track it was different I'd get a huge jump on him although I think in a half mile run he'd take me.

We are in agreement, I'm just playing devils advocate, but I STILL want to see your damn dyno graph!!!!!
Oh yeah, sorry, I haven't scanned it yet. I will do that tonight and post it.
I was just making a general statement based on facts, assuming equal drivers and equal traction.
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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WOW, there's no need to fight. No i don't have ALL the bolt on's on my car. And i did say i am a racer on a budget cuz i go to college and all. i got the ASA cam and muffler. Headers are in the mail along with the catted y. i don't drive this car all the time.

Plus the only reason that i raced that vette was to see if it were a z06 or not. i confirmed since i did beat it that it was NOT a z06. the car never had the z06 wheels, emblems or nothing to prove that it was a z06. my car is a a4 if that means anything. it felt good beating the vetter . i expected to get my *** kicked since my car feels like a yaht and i knew that the vette would be lighter. But thanks for all the imput guys
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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I just have to wonder if these folks talk like this to people face to face..
It's a fact that i would be throwin down in a second if someone talks like that to my face..So why hide behind a keyboard and do it..It's attitudes like that,that keep me away from certain forums.Looks like i'll be seeing you guy's later and adding this one to the list
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:19 AM
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WOW.....Nytmare, you are quite the idiot. Can you not discuss this like a mature adult? We may disagree but you don't have to fly off the handle with all the name calling. With that said......

Dean based his opinion on my stock ZO6 and his SS. I have also raced a very nicely set up WS6(bolt on/headers/cam only with 400rwhp) on a couple of occassions. I would beat him down low due my gearing. We did several rollons from about 50mph sometimes up to 150mph and we were dead even. He would have got me with gears. So with gears AND 400rwhp I think it would be safe to say the F-body wins. Take away any of the horsepower or take away the gears and it becomes more interesting.

Anyway, I don't know what you call a race. I know a 325rwhp A4 vette that runs well into the 11s.....and traps all of 110mph....so what. If you live for the ET on a timeslip, more power to ya. I got my assed spanked by a CRX turbo.....so what. I could have spanked him from a dig....so what. Sorry your manliness is somehow attached to how fast your car is. It seems it obviously lacks elsewhere.




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