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Old 06-21-2006, 04:32 AM
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Why does a ss wont to race stock c5. He should be racing a Zo6 instead.
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Originally Posted by Jack Epperson
Why does a ss want to race stock c5. He should be racing a Zo6 instead.
Why??
Old 06-21-2006, 01:11 PM
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I say go for it. My true all stock 97 c5 a4 w/3.15 takes a 04 c5 6sp all day long from a stop; at around 30 mph I lose. If the $50 is to much for you then haggle him a bit. Sell him on the fact he doesn't need $ to race because he is a winner either way. He beats you he wins, you beat him he wins cause he can then say I raced a vette and barely lost. (That is what he will tell people at least) Have fun.
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Originally Posted by Patman
If you run a full quarter mile, chances are good you'll win. I've seen a bone stock 99 C5 convertible run 13.3s at 105, and it was 2.73 geared. A lot of the times that I see guys with M6 F-bodies at the track they have difficulty running quicker than 13.7s unless they have done a lot of drag racing. A lot of novices can't even get into the 13s. But with a 2.73 geared automatic you just floor it and away you go.
Wow, way to generalize vett guy!!!! the time in my sig was done the first day i went to the track, IN MY LIFE!! when my car didnt enen have a lid, and im a vert too!!! yet to run it with my small amount of mods. oh, and about not bieng able to do better than 13.7, my very first pass was a 13.6! i have never seen 14s!
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yea way to many variables it really depends on the cars and the drivers.. some stock auto vettes put down 280 some do 310+

from a roll i'd def put $ on the SS
from a dig, get a stall converter and tires and you should win
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Originally Posted by gyrene2003
Wow, way to generalize vett guy!!!! the time in my sig was done the first day i went to the track, IN MY LIFE!! when my car didnt enen have a lid, and im a vert too!!! yet to run it with my small amount of mods. oh, and about not bieng able to do better than 13.7, my very first pass was a 13.6! i have never seen 14s!
I'm telling you from my experience at the track, and I've been there tons of times with the Toronto f-body guys for many years (I owned three f-bodies before my Vette), that most M6 f-body owners have a very hard time running better than high 13s with their cars in stock trim. I'm not saying it's impossible to run low 13s, I'm just saying that most novice drivers can't do it, and when you go to the track with 50 f-bodies, there might be 4 or 5 guys out of the bunch who really know how to launch and shift a 6 speed car well enough to get it to run it's full potential. The rest just cannot do it.

FWIW, in 1998 I managed to run a 13.08 at 108.7 with my old 6 speed 98 Formula, with just free mods and an MTI airbox and still on the stock GSCs (with a 2.00 60ft time). But it took a lot of practice with the car before I got it running that well. My first trip to the track (when the car was one week old and not broken in) netted me a 13.68 at 102.9.
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Originally Posted by SLP4CamaroSS
i dont know i havent lost to any vette yet and im stock i take them really hard off the line and on a roll
After you go to DFW, come over to Charleston and watch me go bye-bye!

This race is driver more than car if you all ask me, but who is asking me?
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Originally Posted by Patman
I'm telling you from my experience at the track, and I've been there tons of times with the Toronto f-body guys for many years (I owned three f-bodies before my Vette), that most M6 f-body owners have a very hard time running better than high 13s with their cars in stock trim. I'm not saying it's impossible to run low 13s, I'm just saying that most novice drivers can't do it, and when you go to the track with 50 f-bodies, there might be 4 or 5 guys out of the bunch who really know how to launch and shift a 6 speed car well enough to get it to run it's full potential. The rest just cannot do it.

FWIW, in 1998 I managed to run a 13.08 at 108.7 with my old 6 speed 98 Formula, with just free mods and an MTI airbox and still on the stock GSCs (with a 2.00 60ft time). But it took a lot of practice with the car before I got it running that well. My first trip to the track (when the car was one week old and not broken in) netted me a 13.68 at 102.9.

Don't jump on Patman, It sounds like he knows a little something about cars. I have a 2002 SS, and when I first bought it I ran 3 passes, all 3 of them were 13.7s using the G-Tech, and I was B.O.N.E stock. Since then I have done some small mods, all bolt on, no mas, tb, or pullies. I now run 8.4-8.5 in the 1/8th. Some of us from the Mid-Iowa Camaro Club (www.midiowacamaroclub.com) are going to Cedar Falls Raceway in July which is a 1/4 mile in Iowa, so we'll see what I run now.

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Old 06-24-2006, 03:33 PM
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my bone stock A4 vette will go 13.0 all day long in 85 degree weather on run flats but i have 3.15's from factory, so maybe with your gearing your like a 13.4 you should have no problem just launch from exactly 1k rpm and you should have no problem if the other guy isnt john force your going up against!
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careful. I told a ton of people that I only had a cam, long tubes and a rear. after 10 carlengths they were a little puzzled
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Or, you can try the banana in the tailpipe




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