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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 09:20 AM
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2002 35th le vert a4, kooks 1/3/4 Lts, kooks catted y pipe, high flow race cats, magnaflow catback, 8.5msd wires, ngk plugs, 12 bolt moser 3.73 gears. yank ss 4000 stall, with cooler, slp air lid with smooth bellow. best run before the converter was a 13.03 @107 on mt drag radials. 325rwhp and 321rwtq. what should it run? thanks.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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Before the converter did you still have all the other mods?

Being that it's a vert and heavier you'll be a little behind a normal F-body. I'd say it should run mid 12's @ 110-111ish
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Before the converter did you still have all the other mods?

Being that it's a vert and heavier you'll be a little behind a normal F-body. I'd say it should run mid 12's @ 110-111ish
yes i had all those other mods when i ran the 13.0. i havent ran it with new cconverter yet
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 35ss
yes i had all those other mods when i ran the 13.0. i havent ran it with new cconverter yet
You will likely drop .6 with that converter. It's a good size stall and a great brand in Yank. Very good choice. You will also likely add +2 or +3 in trap speed. So I'll guess you will run:

12.4 @ 109 give or take a tenth and give or take a mph. The 12 bolt and extra pounds from the vert are your biggest hinderances going down the track. But I gotta compliment you on your choice of mods. Every mod you have done is a solid choice by a solid company. 12 bolt might be over kill at this point but you can keep modding and grow into it, LOL

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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
You will likely drop .6 with that converter. It's a good size stall and a great brand in Yank. Very good choice. You will also likely add +2 or +3 in trap speed. So I'll guess you will run:

12.4 @ 109 give or take a tenth and give or take a mph. The 12 bolt and extra pounds from the vert are your biggest hinderances going down the track. But I gotta compliment you on your choice of mods. Every mod you have done is a solid choice by a solid company. 12 bolt might be over kill at this point but you can keep modding and grow into it, LOL

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thanks.... i hope to get that time 12.4 or better
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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im gonna say 12.5@110
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 35ss
2002 35th le vert a4, kooks 1/3/4 Lts, kooks catted y pipe, high flow race cats, magnaflow catback, 8.5msd wires, ngk plugs, 12 bolt moser 3.73 gears. yank ss 4000 stall, with cooler, slp air lid with smooth bellow. best run before the converter was a 13.03 @107 on mt drag radials. 325rwhp and 321rwtq. what should it run? thanks.
Needs a cam
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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Needs a cam
absolutely!
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~12.4 @ 110-111 depending on weather and track conditions
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jsteele90
absolutely!
what kind of times can i get if i added a cam to the list ?
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 35ss
what kind of times can i get if i added a cam to the list ?
skys the limit! depends on the cam. whats the cam only record now like 9.90s? shoot for that. lol
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Originally Posted by 35ss
yes i had all those other mods when i ran the 13.0. i havent ran it with new cconverter yet
Your trap is about 2-3mph low for those mods. Does the car have a tune? Hopefully the stall will wake it up.

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You will likely drop .6 with that converter. It's a good size stall and a great brand in Yank. Very good choice. You will also likely add +2 or +3 in trap speed. So I'll guess you will run:

12.4 @ 109 give or take a tenth and give or take a mph. The 12 bolt and extra pounds from the vert are your biggest hinderances going down the track. But I gotta compliment you on your choice of mods. Every mod you have done is a solid choice by a solid company. 12 bolt might be over kill at this point but you can keep modding and grow into it, LOL

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Lol 12 Bolt overkill? Hell no. A rear end is one of the first mods everyone should do on these cars. Anything is better than the POS 10 Bolt lol.
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Your trap is about 2-3mph low for those mods. Does the car have a tune? Hopefully the stall will wake it up.



Lol 12 Bolt overkill? Hell no. A rear end is one of the first mods everyone should do on these cars. Anything is better than the POS 10 Bolt lol.
Yes its tuned. I haven't ran it yet with the converter. Is it really that low considering its a vert?
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Yes its tuned. I haven't ran it yet with the converter. Is it really that low considering its a vert?
I mean, I would expect it to do at least 109mph with those mods. Considering it's an auto and a vert it's not going to trap as high as a hardtop or t-top car but still seems a bit low to me. I was doing 108mph in my lid/catback WS6 full weight, which isn't light.

Get to the track and see what the stall does!
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12.3 - 12.4 if you run in the same DA as the 13.0
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Lol 12 Bolt overkill? Hell no. A rear end is one of the first mods everyone should do on these cars. Anything is better than the POS 10 Bolt lol.
In a 6 speed, yes. 12 bolt is a great investment and the sooner the better.

In an automatic, not so much. Remember that with the automatic you can pre-load the drivetrain before a launch. This is HUGE for the preservation of a 10 bolt rearend. I know guys running 10's on the stock 10 bolt with no issues at all. I have at least 1000+ passes in the 11's with 1.5-1.7 60's and my stock 10 bolt is still running strong.

Until you are well into the 10's, 450+ rwhp and 1.4 or lower 60' times I wouldn't worry about the 10 bolt in an automatic.

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Always preload the drivetrain before you launch and get off the gas immediately if you ever experience any wheel hop.


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Im on the stock 10 bolt. Car has 123k
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
I mean, I would expect it to do at least 109mph with those mods. Considering it's an auto and a vert it's not going to trap as high as a hardtop or t-top car but still seems a bit low to me. I was doing 108mph in my lid/catback WS6 full weight, which isn't light.

Get to the track and see what the stall does!
i will as soon as it opens in the spring>>
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Verts aren't as heavy/slow as most think. My (see sig) bolt-on only full weight vert went 12.3 w/3.42 gears and a 2800 stall.
Car in sig goes 11.72 @ 116 cam only, 3.42, SS3600 on motor (again full weight).
Also, as stated above DA can move time several 1/10ths either way.

Hope this helps as some reference points.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ragtopz28
Verts aren't as heavy/slow as most think. My (see sig) bolt-on only full weight vert went 12.3 w/3.42 gears and a 2800 stall.
Car in sig goes 11.72 @ 116 cam only, 3.42, SS3600 on motor (again full weight).
Also, as stated above DA can move time several 1/10ths either way.

Hope this helps as some reference points.
thats a good time, 12.3 with just bolt ons and a little 2800 stall.
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