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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Didnt like the crappy in the garage pics so I drove it around a little today to get tune close, washed it and took some better pics. Besides doing some nice welds and everything fitting well its nice to see there was no extra dents/scratches in the car which takes a little extra work when doing a cage.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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lol.... looking more and more like the 8sec car you had/will have
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
lol.... looking more and more like the 8sec car you had/will have
It will get close to the 8s but the D1SC will limit it, low 9s will be good enough for me. I would just like to get it solidly in the 5s in the 1/8 and thats 9.20s or so in the 1/4.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Yea right. Like we believe that. You'll run a 9.29, make a change or 2 and run a 9.09 ect ect.
I said 12's was it, then 10's, then 8's, ect. You can't trust anything we say, we always want more.
It sure did come out sweet, that's for damn sure!!

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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Kevin,

Looking good!

Originally Posted by kp
It will get close to the 8s but the D1SC will limit it, low 9s will be good enough for me.
Sounds familiar...............
Wonder if he will stick to it.......
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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stunning man!
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Villain281H
Kevin,

Looking good!



Sounds familiar...............
Wonder if he will stick to it.......
I dont have enough money NOT to stick to it

I'd need a new short block (shelf pistons wont take the abuse) and bigger blower to get in the 8s solid - or theft recovery it. For now I'll have to be satisfied with getting what I can out of the parts involved. Doing a cage wont make it any faster unfortunately, the BS3 will help a bit but I did that mainly for consistency.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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if you dont mind me asking what TA do you have under the car?

did/do you plot out the suspension on the 4th gen cars?

what angles do you have your lca's and ta...

how far from your axel is your IC and how high off the ground?

just curious
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looks awesome .....came out real nice
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
if you dont mind me asking what TA do you have under the car?

did/do you plot out the suspension on the 4th gen cars?

what angles do you have your lca's and ta...

how far from your axel is your IC and how high off the ground?

just curious
I have the Moser M9 torque arm, its about as long as a stock one.

TA angle doesnt matter much if its sliding on the front, the angle is whatever it is to clear my exhaust and driveshaft loop and put the driveline angle where I want it.

LCA angle is a couple degrees up (higher in the front), that puts the IC at about the middle of the engine at the camshaft CL, thats actualy hitting the tires a little harder then I like but its OK with the power I'm making now, when I add more power it will be a wheelstander so I'll lower the car a little to take some LCA angle out.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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how do you actually plot the IC on these cars? what are you drawing your lines through?

you actually have put together a few cars that work identical and you dont make money building these cars so i feel your input is very realistic and not Inet BS... lol


but these TA cars really have me confused especially with the shackle thats on them...

alot of the people i talk to say to treat them like a ladder bar car but im not so sure that's the right direction to take.

it sounds like my car is pretty spot-on by the way you described your lca angle and TA but i want to be able to plot it out and see for sure.

sorry for hi-jacking
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kp
Didnt like the crappy in the garage pics so I drove it around a little today to get tune close, washed it and took some better pics. Besides doing some nice welds and everything fitting well its nice to see there was no extra dents/scratches in the car which takes a little extra work when doing a cage.
oh you wanted the dent and scratch sale you didnt say anything, lol
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
how do you actually plot the IC on these cars? what are you drawing your lines through?

you actually have put together a few cars that work identical and you dont make money building these cars so i feel your input is very realistic and not Inet BS... lol


but these TA cars really have me confused especially with the shackle thats on them...

alot of the people i talk to say to treat them like a ladder bar car but im not so sure that's the right direction to take.

it sounds like my car is pretty spot-on by the way you described your lca angle and TA but i want to be able to plot it out and see for sure.

sorry for hi-jacking
An uncoupled (moving front mount) torque arm has nothing to with a ladder bar. I've gone over this and many others have as well, lots of good reading and arguing on the net about it. Google 'torque arm instant center' and you will get enough info to be even more confused. I just estimate the IC from the front TA mount, LCA angle in relation to the CG which makes more sense to me from a plot perspective than the 'right' way to do it which is pretty simple.

To oversimplify it, if nothing is binding the only thing that you need to be concerned about is the length of the TA (more power = longer is better) and the angle of the LCAs. .

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oh you wanted the dent and scratch sale you didnt say anything, lol
Like most I've been in on that sale a few times when I left a car somewhere to get some work done, usually you dont have to request and its free of charge
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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KP i have a question in the lower control arms i have mine set in the middle hole on my brackets should i set them on the bottom one? and if you dont mind id like to get some tips to get my pig to move on down the track you know my blower very well and what it like so i am all ears
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Originally Posted by Rickys S/C Z28
KP i have a question in the lower control arms i have mine set in the middle hole on my brackets should i set them on the bottom one? and if you dont mind id like to get some tips to get my pig to move on down the track you know my blower very well and what it like so i am all ears
Its something you will have to experiment with, the more angle the more anti-squat you will get. If your car is low and the LCA are pretty level I'd give it a try. I'm no chassis expert, I just get lucky sometimes..
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ok thanks sorry for the hijack
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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wanted to bump this thread for a question..the kirkey's are mounted to anything? I thought they had to be mounted to the cage to be safe/legal?

Chad
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nimitz87
wanted to bump this thread for a question..the kirkey's are mounted to anything? I thought they had to be mounted to the cage to be safe/legal?

Chad
look at the harness bar in the cage pics, see those two brackets pointed toward the front? they must have some type of bracket that bolts to the seat that you can bolt to them.
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Originally Posted by jg04222
look at the harness bar in the cage pics, see those two brackets pointed toward the front? they must have some type of bracket that bolts to the seat that you can bolt to them.
correct, and the pass seat does not have to be mounted, to cage... bob
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