afcos vs strange
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afcos vs strange Im trying to get my car done this winter and be ready for spring.
Iv been in a toss up with running sicks or radials in the back. I think Id like to make it hook on a radail and still be able to drive it on the street with out having to swap tires out all the time..
I plan on running a radial up front so..that kind alimits me to the same on the rear.
2000 Firehawk
Full Weight
6 speed
Im wanting to lower the car a bit but still get the car to perform and hook up good. I plan just a guess right now to leave around 5900 to 6200 just to take a guess but anyway..
Whats your thoughts on Afcos vs Strange Double adj. shocks front and rear. I dont really have the extra money for the afcos but if they are worth saving for I will..
Iv been in a toss up with running sicks or radials in the back. I think Id like to make it hook on a radail and still be able to drive it on the street with out having to swap tires out all the time..
I plan on running a radial up front so..that kind alimits me to the same on the rear.
2000 Firehawk
Full Weight
6 speed
Im wanting to lower the car a bit but still get the car to perform and hook up good. I plan just a guess right now to leave around 5900 to 6200 just to take a guess but anyway..
Whats your thoughts on Afcos vs Strange Double adj. shocks front and rear. I dont really have the extra money for the afcos but if they are worth saving for I will..
A launch like that would be pretty hard to get a Radial to hold, best set up concerning money would be strange double adj. in the front, single in the back on a ET Street Bias ply. I ran those for awhile on the street, not really bad at all, i wouldnt consider it daily driver worthy but doable.
Throw your idea of running the same tires to and from the track, just get over that and bite the bullet.
If you want the #'s, get yourself a set of bias ply tires. As for the shocks, afco is the better shock, they offer a single adjustable that's alot more economical and at your level would be plenty to get you to hook up... the double adjustable will probably just give you so many adjustments that you'll never get to try all of them anyway, unless you're making 500 passes a year.
I wouldn't put a radial on the front either, they're a good bit heavier then the bias ply front runners, and are only going to slow you down.
As for the rpm to leave at, you put a 26x10.5 et drag on the car, and you leave off the limiter. Period, anything less is going to result in slower times, you just need to get the car to work leaving at that rpm, that will get you the best results.
If you want the #'s, get yourself a set of bias ply tires. As for the shocks, afco is the better shock, they offer a single adjustable that's alot more economical and at your level would be plenty to get you to hook up... the double adjustable will probably just give you so many adjustments that you'll never get to try all of them anyway, unless you're making 500 passes a year.
I wouldn't put a radial on the front either, they're a good bit heavier then the bias ply front runners, and are only going to slow you down.
As for the rpm to leave at, you put a 26x10.5 et drag on the car, and you leave off the limiter. Period, anything less is going to result in slower times, you just need to get the car to work leaving at that rpm, that will get you the best results.
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We have AFCO:
4 Single Adjustables and springs for the front - 886.00 plus shipping
4 Double Adjustables and springs for the front - 1286.00 Plus shipping
They are better than the strange and not much more.
4 Single Adjustables and springs for the front - 886.00 plus shipping
4 Double Adjustables and springs for the front - 1286.00 Plus shipping
They are better than the strange and not much more.
For a six speed car, spend the extra money on the rear shocks and get double adjustables back there. If you have to compromise anything with the shocks then get the single adj for the front. You'll need to have the back shocks super stiff compression/rebound to control the axle movement at launch, especially with a softer sidewall. If you go with a bias-slick try to get some with a stiff sidewall, this will also help combat the axle movement. I was using 26-10.50-15 ET Streets last year and it was completely bottoming out the wheel to the tire on the launch.
As mentioned earlier, I wouldn't even bother with a radial especially with a heavy full-weight stick car. Bias-tire slicks are way more forgiving. If a bias-slick spins they'll still have decent traction. Once a radial starts to spin, it's like you're on an ice rink and they won't stop spinning until you lift or run out of rpm's.
You mentioned lowering the car. If you don't have lca relocation brackets, then I wouldn't recomend lowering it.
As for the Strange vs Afco debate, they're both good shocks. I have Strange single adj in the front. I'm going to be purchasing shocks for the rear soon and I'm leaning toward the d/a Afco's since their price drop.
Mike
As mentioned earlier, I wouldn't even bother with a radial especially with a heavy full-weight stick car. Bias-tire slicks are way more forgiving. If a bias-slick spins they'll still have decent traction. Once a radial starts to spin, it's like you're on an ice rink and they won't stop spinning until you lift or run out of rpm's.
You mentioned lowering the car. If you don't have lca relocation brackets, then I wouldn't recomend lowering it.
As for the Strange vs Afco debate, they're both good shocks. I have Strange single adj in the front. I'm going to be purchasing shocks for the rear soon and I'm leaning toward the d/a Afco's since their price drop.
Mike
Last edited by Mikey 97Z M6; Feb 3, 2010 at 10:55 AM.
if you are in the market for shocks or any other suspension component i have the best deals you will find. I manufacture all the suspension components and am a direct distributor for AFCO and Strange Engineering.
While AFCO is the best shock on the market, the Strange are very popular and cost efficient. the AFCO reactor shocks are about 50.00 more each in retail cost for single adjustable, the double adjustable eliminator series are 50.00 more as well compared to Strange.
Pm, call or email me for more info or a quote.
While AFCO is the best shock on the market, the Strange are very popular and cost efficient. the AFCO reactor shocks are about 50.00 more each in retail cost for single adjustable, the double adjustable eliminator series are 50.00 more as well compared to Strange.
Pm, call or email me for more info or a quote.
I agree with Mikey.
Also, AFCO dropped their pricing a ways back so they are only slightly more than Strange now. I got my AFCO DA rear's before the price drop so that kind of erked me, but at least I'll save on the fronts.
Also, AFCO dropped their pricing a ways back so they are only slightly more than Strange now. I got my AFCO DA rear's before the price drop so that kind of erked me, but at least I'll save on the fronts.
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The price I posted is the new price and is also the lowest price AFCO will allow dealers to sell the shocks. You can shop around it you want but should not get a better price. If you do the dealer is violating AFCO policy.
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Can you adjust the stance of the car with afcos..I was thinking that you could buy a conversion to make them coil overs or something like that..On street trim I dont like the way it looks wanting to drop it a hair..
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Im goin with a strange 12bolt..last car was a moser 9in..and it probably rasied it an inch..an inch doesnt sound like much but on street trim it looked like crap..
You have it backwards. Stick cars have more tire shock than an automatic so they have a tendencyto unload the tires. This is where the DA rear keeps the rebound tight and the compression loose so you can plant the tire and keep it planted.
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Soo Wes..I can get a deal on the strange da's...What do you think should go with Strange or Afcos..For the savings of money would the Stranges be good enough for me and what we want?
You can't go wrong with afco or strange. If your spending the money, I would for sure go double adjustable though.
When It comes to the rears, I prefer the strange valving over afco's. Most of your faster cars run strange, modified valved koni's, santhuffs and penske.
When It comes to the rears, I prefer the strange valving over afco's. Most of your faster cars run strange, modified valved koni's, santhuffs and penske.