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Old 06-29-2011, 03:18 AM
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Finally got my car back together and the tach, temp and fuel gauges aren't working. I was extra careful when I was removing wiring, but I hope I didn't cut one. Alt. and oil pressure and speedo all work. Fuse is good. They do jump a little when I first hit the key. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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ground maybe?
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You say you got the car all back together. It would help if you explained what you had it torn down for and what you have modified since the gauges last functioned properly. There are two grounds that connect to the cluster and it is possible that one of them is not grounded. Also all the non-functioning components are fed by a single data wire(class 2 serial data signal) that could also cause lack of gauge function. This can be caused by the wire being disconnected or a short to ground anywhere in the data stream. You should get a DTC for class 2 communication error if there is a short.
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This same thing happen to me and it was the the plug in connection that went into the steering colum. I had removed my dash.

It is easy to check. Remove the panel under the steering colum (2) pillips screws and (2) 7mm bolts. Once cover is removed, start the car, wiggle connections and see if guages start working. Also, unplug and plug connections back together to make sure ther is no corrosion on the terminal pins.
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
You say you got the car all back together. It would help if you explained what you had it torn down for and what you have modified since the gauges last functioned properly. There are two grounds that connect to the cluster and it is possible that one of them is not grounded. Also all the non-functioning components are fed by a single data wire(class 2 serial data signal) that could also cause lack of gauge function. This can be caused by the wire being disconnected or a short to ground anywhere in the data stream. You should get a DTC for class 2 communication error if there is a short.
I had the motor/trans out and removed the dash to get some weight out from back there. I was careful not to cut any wiring other than what was left from the hvac, radio and air bags that I removed a few years ago. All the gauges worked up until the re-assembly.
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[QUOTE=Heyfred;15097616]This same thing happen to me and it was the the plug in connection that went into the steering colum. I had removed my dash.

You mean the same 3 gauges that I'm having trouble with?
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You mean the same 3 gauges that I'm having trouble with?
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Originally Posted by Heyfred
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Still no luck, I can't find any loose connections.
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I had the same problem and it was a fuse in the side of the dash. I checked and re checked and one was barely popped and i didnt see it until I really actually payed attention. If all your connections are good that is the next place to check.. maybe with a test light to see if you have power to the right places?
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Did you get your gauges working?

I told you the wrong connector to check.

Here is the one to check. It is under the dash, to the right of the steering column. It has a plug in the connection. Pull the plug out and reinstall.





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[QUOTE=Heyfred;15130244]Did you get your gauges working?

I told you the wrong connector to check.

Here is the one to check. It is under the dash, to the right of the steering column. It has a plug in the connection. Pull the plug out and reinstall.

No, they still aren't working. I'm taking it to my buddies shop Saturday and he's going to check it with his Snap on scanner.
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When the gauges were not working, my scanner did not work when plugged into the OBD port and it was do to the connector I just showed you.
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Originally Posted by Heyfred
When the gauges were not working, my scanner did not work when plugged into the OBD port and it was do to the connector I just showed you.
Well, thats good to know. My buddies scanner couldn't communicate with the computer. I cut that plug out, I don't know why. I'm going to re-connect them and hopefully the gauges and the obd II port will work.

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Originally Posted by ss2000
Well, thats good to know. My buddies scanner couldn't communicate with the computer. I cut that plug out, I don't know why. I'm going to re-connect them and hopefully the gauges and the obd II port will work.
That will do it. All you need to do is twist all the wires together and solder them or put a good crimp connector. No need to put the splice pack back in.
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Well, I got the gauges working, just have to check the obd II outlet. I must have accidentaly cut out the splice pack.
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Originally Posted by ss2000
Well, I got the gauges working, just have to check the obd II outlet. I must have accidentaly cut out the splice pack.
What was the problem for the gauges not to work?
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Originally Posted by Martinshere
What was the problem for the gauges not to work?
Sorry, I honestly can't remember, 12 years ago.



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