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Front Sway Bar Sup guys, I am of course always trying to find ways to go faster without spending any money
I took my back seat out the other day since I have a 6pt. cage and no one can sit back there anyways.
I also removed all the padding underneath the carpet too.
Anyone know how much lighter I would be after this?
I also want to remove the front sway bar not for pulling weight but for weight transfer. My question is this: I have full suspension and welded sfc's. Will I notice it? I don't haul *** around any twisties, the most I may do is do 30-35mph on an off ramp that says 20-25. Of course if I feel the car doing something weird I'm not gonna stunt man it out I'll slow down.
I'm at the track every week sometimes twice a week so I think I can justify it, especially since it's not my daily driver.
How hard is it?
What do you guys think?
I took my back seat out the other day since I have a 6pt. cage and no one can sit back there anyways.
I also removed all the padding underneath the carpet too.
Anyone know how much lighter I would be after this?
I also want to remove the front sway bar not for pulling weight but for weight transfer. My question is this: I have full suspension and welded sfc's. Will I notice it? I don't haul *** around any twisties, the most I may do is do 30-35mph on an off ramp that says 20-25. Of course if I feel the car doing something weird I'm not gonna stunt man it out I'll slow down.
I'm at the track every week sometimes twice a week so I think I can justify it, especially since it's not my daily driver.
How hard is it?
What do you guys think?
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I had heard that SFC and having full suspension will help with keeping the rigidity in the car and not give as many ill effects as taking the sway bar off on a stock suspended car would.
i havent had a front sway bar for approx 9 years. i would guess thats 50k miles or so.
im not a corner carver and you can tell its not there, but not detrimental in my opinion, just different driving characteristics
im not a corner carver and you can tell its not there, but not detrimental in my opinion, just different driving characteristics
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When you say different, can you elaborate?
yeah thats mine, i found out last week, pretty badass
thanks for the compliments
as far as different: the front end transfers a lot more during acceleration, more body roll around sweeping corners like on/off ramps, and front feels a little more floaty at three digit speeds. its still very stable and you get used to it . you can still take 40mph on ramps at 40-50 mph without issue and the weight transfer and savings makes it well worth it in my opinion. having adjustable shocks on the front helps as well
thanks for the compliments
as far as different: the front end transfers a lot more during acceleration, more body roll around sweeping corners like on/off ramps, and front feels a little more floaty at three digit speeds. its still very stable and you get used to it . you can still take 40mph on ramps at 40-50 mph without issue and the weight transfer and savings makes it well worth it in my opinion. having adjustable shocks on the front helps as well
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That's what I expected you to pretty much say.
I have a 95 Jeep Grand Cherokee that is lifted with 31" BFG KM2's on it and I have sway bar disco's on it, and I have numerous amounts of times forgot to re-connect it from wheeling and gotten on the highway and I didn't even realize it till I got all the way home and this on a square highly un aerodynamic vehicle let alone lifted 3" and having soft suspension from the factory.
Basically I think if I can handle it in my lifted Jeed I should be able to handle it with my SS.
I just want it to transfer more weight and lift the front tires like it should. My next mods are gonna be at least some type of quality single or double adj. shock out back(maybe even coil-overs) and a BMR extreme anti-roll bar. This will be done after I take the front sway bar off and see how much it helps.
I may one day swap out to a adj. shock up front, but for now I'm gonna stick with my ground pounder coilovers and Eibach springs and add limiters if I need to.
I have a 95 Jeep Grand Cherokee that is lifted with 31" BFG KM2's on it and I have sway bar disco's on it, and I have numerous amounts of times forgot to re-connect it from wheeling and gotten on the highway and I didn't even realize it till I got all the way home and this on a square highly un aerodynamic vehicle let alone lifted 3" and having soft suspension from the factory.
Basically I think if I can handle it in my lifted Jeed I should be able to handle it with my SS.
I just want it to transfer more weight and lift the front tires like it should. My next mods are gonna be at least some type of quality single or double adj. shock out back(maybe even coil-overs) and a BMR extreme anti-roll bar. This will be done after I take the front sway bar off and see how much it helps.
I may one day swap out to a adj. shock up front, but for now I'm gonna stick with my ground pounder coilovers and Eibach springs and add limiters if I need to.
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I yanked mine off last year and I daily drive my car. If you see saw the wheel back and forth you can tell the difference as there is more body roll. I picked up about .15 on my 60' just from removing it. A few times I would just undo one end link and hook it back up the next day. I got tired of that and had to ditch the whole thing with the turbo.
I borrowed a set of QA1 R's last year and on the street I was able to stiffen them up so much it felt like I never removed the sway bar. With my stock shocks you can tell for sure but only when you jerk the wheel back and forth. It's hardly noticeable for cruising around the posted speed limits on the street.
I borrowed a set of QA1 R's last year and on the street I was able to stiffen them up so much it felt like I never removed the sway bar. With my stock shocks you can tell for sure but only when you jerk the wheel back and forth. It's hardly noticeable for cruising around the posted speed limits on the street.
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I yanked mine off last year and I daily drive my car. If you see saw the wheel back and forth you can tell the difference as there is more body roll. I picked up about .15 on my 60' just from removing it. A few times I would just undo one end link and hook it back up the next day. I got tired of that and had to ditch the whole thing with the turbo.
I borrowed a set of QA1 R's last year and on the street I was able to stiffen them up so much it felt like I never removed the sway bar. With my stock shocks you can tell for sure but only when you jerk the wheel back and forth. It's hardly noticeable for cruising around the posted speed limits on the street.
I borrowed a set of QA1 R's last year and on the street I was able to stiffen them up so much it felt like I never removed the sway bar. With my stock shocks you can tell for sure but only when you jerk the wheel back and forth. It's hardly noticeable for cruising around the posted speed limits on the street.
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I'd rather mess with it one time and take it off or leave it on. I wish someone would make a sway bar disco for our cars. They make them for jeeps why not for a street car/strip car.
I know I can make them myself with some well chosen items at home depot.
If you add a stiffer rear bar, and take the front one off it won't be as bad as you think it will. If you still drive on the street with stock sized front and rear tires, having the front bar off isn't reallythat bad. It doesn't get bad until you put skinnies on the front, then the car's tend not to handle very well.
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Well guys I feel pretty duped today!
I drove my car up on the ramps and then jacked it up to remove the front sway bar......that wasn't there!!!
Previous owner took it off already in preparation for a trz arb roll bar and qa1 coilovers.
This whole time I didn't know it was there due to the suspension mods I have probably and how low the car is. I did put my 15" drag wheels on today with the skinnies up front and it surely isn't the car it was before Not scary at all just different. I was hauling at F-body Beach Bash at Myrtle Beach Speedway and didn't notice anything weird or body roll with my 275/40's and 305/35's 17/18 respectively.
I plan on either that roll bar, a UMI, or I'm kinda leaning towards a BMR now to match the other suspension components I have, and a single adjustable QA1 shock and keep my stock springs. Are double adjustables worth it? I'm trying to k.i.s.s. which is why I wanted to for-go the rear coilover's, unless I'm making it a lot harder than it is to tune them.
I drove my car up on the ramps and then jacked it up to remove the front sway bar......that wasn't there!!!
Previous owner took it off already in preparation for a trz arb roll bar and qa1 coilovers.
This whole time I didn't know it was there due to the suspension mods I have probably and how low the car is. I did put my 15" drag wheels on today with the skinnies up front and it surely isn't the car it was before
Not scary at all just different. I was hauling at F-body Beach Bash at Myrtle Beach Speedway and didn't notice anything weird or body roll with my 275/40's and 305/35's 17/18 respectively.I plan on either that roll bar, a UMI, or I'm kinda leaning towards a BMR now to match the other suspension components I have, and a single adjustable QA1 shock and keep my stock springs. Are double adjustables worth it? I'm trying to k.i.s.s. which is why I wanted to for-go the rear coilover's, unless I'm making it a lot harder than it is to tune them.
If you can float the 2x adjustable shocks do it. You won't regret that move. I'd try for afco 1st, strange 2nd and qa1 3rd. (in that order for quality, and unfortunately price)
If you don't have a rear swaybar on the car, wolfe, trz or bmr will work. I have been wanting to put a TRZ on a car for a while just to try it. I was hoping one of the local guys to me would do it so I could take a look at it.. just haven't found anyone that needs a drag bar yet.
At least you don't have to remove the bar now
If you don't have a rear swaybar on the car, wolfe, trz or bmr will work. I have been wanting to put a TRZ on a car for a while just to try it. I was hoping one of the local guys to me would do it so I could take a look at it.. just haven't found anyone that needs a drag bar yet.
At least you don't have to remove the bar now
HAHA at the missing sway bar. But I drove around with no rear sway bar and it sucked. Installed a MWC drag bar and removed the front bar and felt great like I had both installed.
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If you can float the 2x adjustable shocks do it. You won't regret that move. I'd try for afco 1st, strange 2nd and qa1 3rd. (in that order for quality, and unfortunately price)
If you don't have a rear swaybar on the car, wolfe, trz or bmr will work. I have been wanting to put a TRZ on a car for a while just to try it. I was hoping one of the local guys to me would do it so I could take a look at it.. just haven't found anyone that needs a drag bar yet.
At least you don't have to remove the bar now
If you don't have a rear swaybar on the car, wolfe, trz or bmr will work. I have been wanting to put a TRZ on a car for a while just to try it. I was hoping one of the local guys to me would do it so I could take a look at it.. just haven't found anyone that needs a drag bar yet.
At least you don't have to remove the bar now
Is there really a big difference in between the afco's, strange and qa1's?
I've heard good things about the TRZ, is there a sponsor here that is a dealer for them or another company like Wolfe or BMR that can get me the best deal possible on maybe the shocks and drag bar?
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