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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Default Gains from ditching tru trac and going spool?

Putting in a light weight spool and taking out the tru trac. Just curious to what gains I might see at the tire and at the track.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Approximately 50# rotating mass..........maybe up to .03 ????

I will also recommend that you keep an eye on lugnut torque. They will come loose once in a while due to the back and forth twisting action of the axles.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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I had a gear driven limited slip on my black street/turbo car.

I have a spool on my new car.

It isn't an apples to apples comparison at all, but the spool is noticeable in reverse with the wheels turned.

I couldn't give you an honest answer at the track aside from both tires spin when it doesn't hook!
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Nothing lol... I did this swap last year and other then shedding some weight and insuring both tires are spinning, no noticable gains for me.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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peace of mind knowing that it's not going to break.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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If your tru trac is not slipping, you will see no difference. If you are wheelstanding the spool will keep the car straighter. Thats about it.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by subhumanzz
peace of mind knowing that it's not going to break.
This is why I switched.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug G
Approximately 50# rotating mass..........maybe up to .03 ????

I will also recommend that you keep an eye on lugnut torque. They will come loose once in a while due to the back and forth twisting action of the axles.
50lbs??? U sure about that?
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Old May 25, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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I did the swap on mine, and saw no difference. I pulled it down to do a gear change, and found metal. The Detroit try trac was eating itself up, but not enough to make the car act up. I ordered a Moser steel spool. They advised against the aluminum one. Said the splines wear out faster. Witch makes sense.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Night and day difference. Simply because now you can make successful runs, and not BREAK THE TRU CRAP
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Old May 25, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Night and day difference. Simply because now you can make successful runs, and not BREAK THE TRU CRAP
I just put a tru crap in my 9" on the vette
I ran 1.3 60's all day on my 12 bolt posi-I figured how bad could it be?
Now I know-thx JL
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Old May 25, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
50lbs??? U sure about that?
more or less
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Old May 25, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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I only notice mine now when I try and turn, especially in reverse. Make sure your rear tires are the same roll out or within 1/2" of each other. The M/T's I just got are just over 3/4 off and the car is wanting to pull, I'm trying to stretch the smaller one this weekend.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Night and day difference. Simply because now you can make successful runs, and not BREAK THE TRU CRAP
this sounds about right
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I didnt think it would be much of a gain, but still help in the long run. I figured maybe .05ish and 5-10rwhp increase. Im really doing it to make sure the car stays straight and doesnt break.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Ive heard as much as 15+ rwhp.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Yea true trac is junk,spool and the peice of mind knowing it can handle abuse.
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Tek, an old school eaton was a lot better then the tru junk.... At least those were rebuildable
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Old May 27, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Tek, an old school eaton was a lot better then the tru junk.... At least those were rebuildable
Lol-well I'll see how far I can push it-great thing about 3rd members-few bolts and it's gone so if its really an issue for me I can always keep an additional 3rd member with a spool and swap it in for track days.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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I was (stuck) running 11.1x 11.25ish for months, same setup for almost 2 years worked it down form mid/high11's. Truetrac was I think acting up. changed it out to a spool (same gears and tires) saved 33.8pounds, The diffs, diff lol weight (s60) And my stock 60K mile rear shocks for some used summit 3ways from a local. When 10.8x 1st past, a week later (just put the spool in I think was the day before) It was getting fall time and the air was better, but it was still during the daytime. But not was comparing 90* air 150 track temp, 2800+ DA in AUG daytime. to 50* oct night 500DA.
I was really hopping for just a 10.99 was shocked to see it running 10.8x. I remember too, on the street car car felt slower with the spool, And I normally dont trust how the car feels (as in this case) After pulling some gears I didn't have to steer the car as much, it wasn't as wild (fun?) it drove straighter. The big ET pickup makes since, the shortest distance between 2 points is a strait line I dont know if everyone will see a result like that, but thats really how it went for me
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