I put the Tr224 on 112 cam in again and with the stock convertor it ran 12.5 but with the 3000 convertor all i can get is 12.3 and i was faster than that with the stock cam. I am slipping at the line but even my mph is still 110-111 like with the stock cam. Any Ideas??

 

Have you had her tuned?

Coach

 

No not yet but it will be soon I just thought i would run a little faster with out it tuned not slower.

 

hey man dont feel bad trust me when i say this. i have a 99 camaro ss m6 with long tubes, off rd y pipe, magnaflow cat back, lid, filter, etc and the tr224 112 lsa untuned and my best run on drag radials is a miserable 12.84 @ 110mph. i dont have it tuned yet nor do i have a ls6 intake or gears. i dont know what the deal is, but everyone keeps saying if it is tuned yet and it isnt. however, i got to believe that tuning this car and putting a ls6 intake will drop a half a second in my et or otherwise i got a slow 99 ss. everyone in this site keeps sayihg to tune so i got to believe that everyone is dropping alot but i mean alot off their e.t by just tuning it. the word around here is tune it tune it tune it and i was thinking like you. i have to be able to see a decent et with an untuned car either way because there is noooooo waaaaay that i am gonna drop half a second by just tuning it and putting a ls6 intake on. unless of course someone here can speak up and tell me otherwise?????? i still havent seen anybody speak up about this cam. its a great daily driver and all, but where is the proof after it has been tuned what you gain at the track??? you and i are not the only ones that are trapping that low with that cam. my friend with a 01 ss trapped 109 mph bone stock with just gutted catalytics!!!!. i will bolt on the ls6 intake, ported tb and may be the crank pulley and then dyno tune everything in one shot. i will then head to the track and see where i am at. i expect to trap around 114 mph and i hoping for a 12.2 et or so. even though i should be faster than a 12.2, i am satisfied with a 12.2 et. if none of this is possible after forking out all this cash and having every bolt on other than stock heads, then i will go ahead and start looking for that black " terminator" 03 cobra and take it to steeda to do simple bolt ons and run up and down the track all day long 11 second passes. why the hell complicate yourself so much if may be we just got stock with a " turd" ls1? not all of them are slow, but unfourtunately i wouldnt go back to something that didnt perform as expected and i wouldnt take a chance again and wind up with another " turd".

 

it is kinda weird that you went a 12.09 on stock cam and a 12.3 on the 224. it must be really screwing up something.

 

Like someone else said, tuning...have you tapped your car to see if you are pulling timing for example, what do you tables look like, what are your l-trims..open closed loop...are your o2 sensors working for you? Are you running too lean or too rich? Answer those questions, and I bet you will find your answer. And yes, that intake is going to be a chocking point.

Just my .02

 

could be weather. Did you run the best times in cool weather? DA can affect times up to 2/3rds of a second.

 

I dont think so because the DA at the track last night was really good and the week before was horribly hot with bad DA and the times werent any different.

 

still nothing. noone here can back it up their dyno tune with track results.. alot of this n that, but i am still waiting for those 1 million individuals who i know have this cam and dont have any results

 

i regret not doing with a bigger cam than this one. i mean how much can you really improve your et with tuning?? anyone?? .4 .5 gains are too much in my opinion. i think that .2 .3 sounds more realistic. where are all those ls1s with this cam and with track results after dyno tuning the car???? are 410s needed with this cam??
the biggest question of it all is if there is any vehicle here running this cam with 342s and running low twelves???????? are 410s a must in order to run low 12s with this cam??????

 

80% of our cars dont require a cam at all to go low 12's. just some gears in a m6. wessley car should be in the 11.5-11.8 range. so it definatly time to put autotap on it and get a tune. something aint rite.

 

yea, but the 20 percent that dont see those numbers need a cam and even with it it aint happening. it smells like " the terminator" in my garage man. it might come to my rescue sooner than what i think

 

My setup currently A4 12 bolt with 3.73, and I ran a 12.28 at 113...221/221 561/561 114lsa...ls6 intake...ASP Pulley...long tubes, borla and some weight reduction...but that was me driving weighting in at 255... Car tuned using ls1 edit.

 

wow this is weird, we have cammed,tuned,geared cars with torque converters running as slow as some full bolt on auto's with nittos. something is definaly funny here. what is you guys altitude and weather on those runs.

 

Dude, What is your 60 fts on your before and after runs? What is the weight of your Hot Rod?

We can help ya brother. Just give us alittle more info.

Coach

 

Ok Coach here is some more info.
Stock Cam-1.6's 60ft.,12.1-12.2ET,110mph
Tr224cam-1.8's 60ft., 12.3'sET, 111mph
Sorry im not near my slips so I dont know the 1/8 and other stuff.
Oh 3500lb race weight.

 

so basically if you were pulling the same 60 ft with the cam it would only be 11.9's which i would think you would pick up 2 tenths with a good tune maby a lil more. depends on how bad the stock tune is. we need to put your 4400 in and the 4.10's again. then you come borrow my 28" drags. oh yea, if we get those lowering springs off you pick some of that 60ft back up. or atleast get some reloc. brackets.

 

just what I was thinkin. Your 60 fts are way off.

Dude, I just noticed that you live near one of the great LS1 shops in the world.

Get over there and let the boys form Thunder help ya out.

Coach

 

well he is puting the stock springs back on and hopfully geting some lca's and brackets. that will help alot. then ill make him get it tuned so he can offer some stiffer competition.
wessley, you didnt tell me your 60's changed that much, i just thought something was acting stupid.