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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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Im in the market for an aftermarket k member, I have a few questions. Was thinking about the BMR k member. I know it offers a good bit of weight reduction. Will the a arms uppers and lowers also offer weight reduction? Whats the benefits of the upper and lower a arms?
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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If you are looking at numbers, be careful. There are some popular brands here that while tubular, do not save any weight at all.

The uppers are hard to reduce weight to begin with as the stockers are made from stamped sheet metal.

The real advantage of uppers and lowers is suspension rigidity, and adjustability... as long as you buy adjustable items. I personally would not waste money on a suspension item that 1- has poly bushings that bind, 2- are not adjustable. If you buy the right brand you can even lose some weight.

MWC has the highest quality, best prices, and engineered to be strong and light weight. You can expect the best from the best and the results show it!

Give us a call and we will be glad to help you out and elaborate on what's out there as well as benefits and specifics. We offer stage package to save you added expense for later updates as well.
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by stherngent
Im in the market for an aftermarket k member, I have a few questions. Was thinking about the BMR k member. I know it offers a good bit of weight reduction. Will the a arms uppers and lowers also offer weight reduction? Whats the benefits of the upper and lower a arms?
As you know the k-member is where you are going to see most of your weight savings but there is definitely some weight savings to be had by swapping out the lower a-arms too. With the upper a-arms there is minimal to no weight savings so if you factory upper a-arms are in good shape I wouldn't make tubular upper a-arms a priority. If you did go with tubular upper a-arms there would be some benefits. Our BMR upper a-arms (adjustable & non-adjustable) come with new ball joints. The BMR non-adjustable upper a-arms (AA001) have grease able poly bushings and the adjustable upper a-arms (AA004) have the spherical rod ends so they both offer much better articulation than the factory upper a-arms. Also our adjustable upper a-arms will allow to have a much large range of camber adjustment for alignment purposes.

We have two different lower a-arms for the 93-02 F-Body, we have our factory ride height lower a-arms (AA002) and we also have our 1" lowerings lower a-arms (AA020). Obviously the difference is that the 1" lowerings lower a-arms lower the car without losing any suspension travel. Our BMR lower a-arms come with new ball joints and utilize polyurethane bushings and spherical rod ends for improved articulation.

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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Did someone just say there is a tubular k member in the 50 pound range? I find that very hard to believe. If the poster would like to prove that I'd listen but I'm calling BS on that one.

As stated OP, not gonna gain a ton with arms but feeling the suspension move like its supposed to makes at least lowers worth it. They have an inverted (vertical) rear bushing that really resists movement. So changing that to a rod end really gets the front suspension moving like its supposed to. I personally chose PA Racing for a k and lower arms and they have done well. However, I'd have no issue running race craft, BMR, umi, or Midwest stuff if I was in the market again.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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I have had a few different manufacturers parts in my shop from doing upgrades to the MWC products. Just for instance there is a certain "red" turbo k-member, and with same "red" lowers there is a full 25 pounds weight savings with the exact same parts from MWC.

I do recall the "red" lowers being the same weight as stock ones. Just stating the truth is all, and why I say for people to be careful when purchasing tubular components and thinking they are saving weight.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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I'll be the first to admit that the UMI k-member is not the lightest on the market and we didn't intend on it to be. We did intend for it to be one of the strongest and most versatile items on the market.

We run a 2nd tube on the bottom of our k-member that adds additional weight. At the same time it increases strength for street cars and protects the oil pan. Check out the article below and how the UMI k-member saved Chris's engine.

http://www.umiperformance.com/news/?p=373

At the same time this k-member is also used for autox and road race and has proven to withstand it.

If you have any questions please ask. Thanks!
Ryan
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Midwest hands down!!!! The single hole mounting for the lower arms is the way to go. I have a (unnamed) with the slotted holes for the front of the control arm mf'er wont stay tight after countless alignments. MIDWEST CHASSIS OR NOTHING.
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Originally Posted by UMI Performance
I'll be the first to admit that the UMI k-member is not the lightest on the market and we didn't intend on it to be. We did intend for it to be one of the strongest and most versatile items on the market.

We run a 2nd tube on the bottom of our k-member that adds additional weight. At the same time it increases strength for street cars and protects the oil pan. Check out the article below and how the UMI k-member saved Chris's engine.

http://www.umiperformance.com/news/?p=373

At the same time this k-member is also used for autox and road race and has proven to withstand it.

If you have any questions please ask. Thanks!
Ryan
That would be my son Chris Johnson, and his car has been*** ON**** the rear bumper 2 times, and slammed down to the track with no damage to the K-member.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
That would be my son Chris Johnson, and his car has been*** ON**** the rear bumper 2 times, and slammed down to the track with no damage to the K-member.
Thanks for chiming in. Chris seems like an awesome guy and we really like his car. We use his car as an example all the time!

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Burkhart. Solid race parts, good people, and can be customized to your needs. I had them build me a front end 1 inch per side narrower then stock, so I could run any wheel I wanted. Their spindles are also light and well built, and will round out a whole setup nicely. Those are also can be curtailed to your spec, stock height, 1 inch drop, etc.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Thanks for the mention. We also have a K Member with factory style motor mounts. There are weight savings in the A Arms. But more importantly is the adjustability and much better geometry.
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