New sanctioning body AFBS
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New sanctioning body AFBS <img src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" border="0" alt="[bullshit]" /> The new sanctioning body is in reallity the NFRA with all the new rules outlawing the SAM car. The name should be changed to the AFBS (Any F-Body but SAM's). Why would anyone (I.E. NFRA decision makers) who is trying to promte a circuit make classes that the most Famous F-Body (The School of Automotive Maschinist '99 SS) can't compete in. Hell I'd want SAM in all the classes. Besides the NFRA article in PH who has been in any magazines more than SAM and Jusdon. The man is a god ... no I'm sorry he is God. Instead of limitting SAM try to put them into every class so he can spread word of the NFRA instead of making classes for losers. Also what will You do when the SAM car wins the King of the Street again.
Also does anyone know what happened to Colonels' car when he had to race the SAM car in the King of the Street.
Also does anyone know what happened to Colonels' car when he had to race the SAM car in the King of the Street.
Re: New sanctioning body AFBS The SAM is quite competitive in NFRA. If SAM wants they could take some weight out. At NFRA 2001 their car had a 3400 raceweight. It would be easy for them to ditch 100 lbs or more. I saw the car up close.
The class they would best fit will be a high 9 second class. SAM is one of the few 4th gens in the country that is already running high 9's NA.
I think they will be fine. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
The class they would best fit will be a high 9 second class. SAM is one of the few 4th gens in the country that is already running high 9's NA.
I think they will be fine. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS "Also does anyone know what happened to Colonels' car when he had to race the SAM car in the King of the Street."
I never made it that far. Dropped a valve seat after the third round after a long day of mechanical gremlins. <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0"> Spent the rest of the afternoon drinkin' a little cold DNA and watchin' Judson stomp the **** out of everyone! <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
Hey, wasn't the King of the Street race the fastest LS1 against the fastest LT1? Woulda been kindof impossible for us to have raced each other if that's the case. Anyway, why do you ask? Had me and the SAM car raced that day he would have almost certainly won. Awesome car to say the least. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
I never made it that far. Dropped a valve seat after the third round after a long day of mechanical gremlins. <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0"> Spent the rest of the afternoon drinkin' a little cold DNA and watchin' Judson stomp the **** out of everyone! <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
Hey, wasn't the King of the Street race the fastest LS1 against the fastest LT1? Woulda been kindof impossible for us to have raced each other if that's the case. Anyway, why do you ask? Had me and the SAM car raced that day he would have almost certainly won. Awesome car to say the least. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS PSJ, only the people who can't make real horse power gut there cars I've seen it at alot of the tracks over the years. Also why is the stock trany rule only in the one and not both classes(please don't say something like, "Oh well because one is for streetable cars and the other is for pure race cars." more people have after market tranys then are willing to gut their beautiful cars like morons). Also does this mean If my car was a A4 I can't put an M6 into it. I don't think it does but better check.
And Stephen <img src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" border="0" alt="[bullshit]" /> I bet if you put the same weight in your car youd never hit the 9's Also The SAM car had 300 lbs more than your shell of a car and ran a mph faster and only 5 hundreths slower. Also keep in mind that for every hundred pouinds you take out that is equivalent to one tenth so that puts you up to a 10.22. But Stephen Congratulations on being number one. I mean that sincerely. And Way to edit your text.
Because I have never posted anywhere I would like to say a very delayed Way to go to the SAM crew on breaking into the 10's first and Breaking into the 9's first and I'm sure if you wanted to being the first into the 8's. To Judson I am a Huge fan of everything SAM has done, not that I think you would but, I highly recomend that you don't do a moronic thing like gut your car. You will still be allowed into the King of the street and you can as Colonel put it [quote] stomp the **** out of everyone! <hr></blockquote>
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And Stephen <img src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" border="0" alt="[bullshit]" /> I bet if you put the same weight in your car youd never hit the 9's Also The SAM car had 300 lbs more than your shell of a car and ran a mph faster and only 5 hundreths slower. Also keep in mind that for every hundred pouinds you take out that is equivalent to one tenth so that puts you up to a 10.22. But Stephen Congratulations on being number one. I mean that sincerely. And Way to edit your text.
Because I have never posted anywhere I would like to say a very delayed Way to go to the SAM crew on breaking into the 10's first and Breaking into the 9's first and I'm sure if you wanted to being the first into the 8's. To Judson I am a Huge fan of everything SAM has done, not that I think you would but, I highly recomend that you don't do a moronic thing like gut your car. You will still be allowed into the King of the street and you can as Colonel put it [quote] stomp the **** out of everyone! <hr></blockquote>
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS Bad SS whatever,
What the hell are you talking about? Please point me to the rule that disallows Massingill's car, I must have missed it. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> FYI, the 2002 rules have not been posted. I suggest you wait to get your panties in a bunch until they have. Until then, chill.
What the hell are you talking about? Please point me to the rule that disallows Massingill's car, I must have missed it. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> FYI, the 2002 rules have not been posted. I suggest you wait to get your panties in a bunch until they have. Until then, chill.
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS Look at the way Colonel's shell is now he would not have to do anything but add weight to get it up to 3000 lbs. Where as Judson would have to put the M6 back in or gut the finest F-body drag car ever built and make it look like the Colonel's **** shell of a Z28.
You DMF, its called reading between the lines. When your number one everyone wants a piece of you and rightfuly so but to make rules that hinder that person is not the way to beat him.
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You DMF, its called reading between the lines. When your number one everyone wants a piece of you and rightfuly so but to make rules that hinder that person is not the way to beat him.
"... because she knows sometimes words have two meanings" - Led Zepplin This quote applies to my name Bad SS MF the M is for Mike the F for Fuller or M is for Mother and F is for ...
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS "And Stephen I bet if you put the same weight ion your car youd never hit the 9's Also The SAM car had 300 lbs more than your shell of a car and ran a mph faster and only 5 hundreths slower. Also keep in mind that for every hundred pouinds you take out that is equivalent to one tenth so that puts you up to a 10.22. But Stephen Congratulations on being number one. I mean that sincerely. And Way to edit your text."
I bet you're right. 9.92 + 300 lbs would be 10s for sure. I would never suggest otherwise. Did I not say that Judson would have beaten me that day? So what's with the BS flag? <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0"> I fully understand that a low weight is just as important as making power. That's why I've spent my resources along this line of thinking. Seems to be working. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> I fully plan to add to this combo a high reving, big converter, big gear, solid lift cam engine eventually. Weight reduction will only carry me so far.
Thanks for the congrats. BTW, I ran a faster MPH than the SAM car on the 9.95 pass. Not that it matters but JFYI. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
What are you talking about editing my text? I've not edited anything I've said in this thread. If I did, what do you claim I said before? <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">
Look, facts are facts. Judson's solid lift car makes more power than mine. It should and it's obvious due to his outstanding performance for his weight. I would NEVER contest this. My car has only turned better times because of my attention to weight reduction (I and a few others are morons by your definition but you are entitled to your opinion.)
I bet you're right. 9.92 + 300 lbs would be 10s for sure. I would never suggest otherwise. Did I not say that Judson would have beaten me that day? So what's with the BS flag? <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0"> I fully understand that a low weight is just as important as making power. That's why I've spent my resources along this line of thinking. Seems to be working. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> I fully plan to add to this combo a high reving, big converter, big gear, solid lift cam engine eventually. Weight reduction will only carry me so far.
Thanks for the congrats. BTW, I ran a faster MPH than the SAM car on the 9.95 pass. Not that it matters but JFYI. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
What are you talking about editing my text? I've not edited anything I've said in this thread. If I did, what do you claim I said before? <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">
Look, facts are facts. Judson's solid lift car makes more power than mine. It should and it's obvious due to his outstanding performance for his weight. I would NEVER contest this. My car has only turned better times because of my attention to weight reduction (I and a few others are morons by your definition but you are entitled to your opinion.)
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS This is pretty rediculous. Im not understanding where the SAM car is excluded. In the NFRA 2002 thread I see no mention of "NO M4's!" Of for that maner, anything even in that same ballpark. Oh, the word 'to' is COMPLETLY different than the word 'two.' Yeah "two meanings" not "to meanings." Who's a DMF, again?
Also, [quote]The man is a god ... no I'm sorry he is God<hr></blockquote> Do you ever come up from under Judson's desk for air? Or are you down there all day long, hence the lack of oxygen to the brain.
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Also, [quote]The man is a god ... no I'm sorry he is God<hr></blockquote> Do you ever come up from under Judson's desk for air? Or are you down there all day long, hence the lack of oxygen to the brain.
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS Low wieght makes a difference but like I said It is for people who CANNOT MAKE POWER ... Wait I got an idea, Holy **** Why not send your motor to SAM? then you would have REAL Power (no disrespect to MTI)
Why not work on the mechanical aspect of the car more than the weight I mean although when I go out on the street rod sceen people always ask me how much does your car weigh.
Why not work on the mechanical aspect of the car more than the weight I mean although when I go out on the street rod sceen people always ask me how much does your car weigh.
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS thank you for pointing out my mistake here is yours. Every should be ever. [quote] Do you every come up from under Judson's desk for air? Or are you down there all day long, hence the lack of oxygen to the brain.<hr></blockquote>
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS Cannot make power? I think I'm making pretty good MPH (135.76) for having a hydraulic cam, 6800 shift points, and an automatic transmission. I dunno, maybe my expectations are a little low? <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
I'm sure MTI can build a pretty stout solid lift setup when the time comes. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
I'm sure MTI can build a pretty stout solid lift setup when the time comes. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS [quote]Originally posted by Bad SS MF:
<strong>thank you for pointing out my mistake here is yours. Every should be ever. </strong><hr></blockquote>
HAHAHA!!! sorry. i changed it.
<strong>thank you for pointing out my mistake here is yours. Every should be ever. </strong><hr></blockquote>
HAHAHA!!! sorry. i changed it.
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS "Why not send your motor to SAM? then you would have REAL Power (no disrespect to MTI)
Why not work on the mechanical aspect of the car more than the weight"
I kinda like the warranty to be honest. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0"> I still have almost another year left on it. With a high reving solid lift setup I'd loose that.
Why not work on the mechanical aspect of the car more than the weight"
I kinda like the warranty to be honest. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0"> I still have almost another year left on it. With a high reving solid lift setup I'd loose that.
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS Billy Glidden's new Pro 5.0 car (the one that won NMRA Pro 5.0 class this past year) runs high 6's, only has to weigh 2400 lbs. Does this mean he cannot make power?
Silly arguement.
And I didn't think the rules were out yet? How can we be making assumptions based on something that isn't even public?
Silly arguement.
And I didn't think the rules were out yet? How can we be making assumptions based on something that isn't even public?
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS All I've done is talk nicely about SAM's excellent school, owner/teacher, and car.
And you come on here calling folks morons, losers, liers, etc... Putting down MTI's engine. Calling folks cars "**** cans." Somehow I really don't think Judson would approve of this sort of discharacter. He's too good a man for such childish nonsense.
BTW, my car was not gutted for the last NFRA event (that was against the rules...you must not have been there or you would know that simple fact) nor shall it be for the next one regardless of the weight rule. Might I suggest you at least make some attempt at knowing what you're talking about before spouting your ignorance in the future. Folks then might actually respect what you have to say.
There are many ways to reduce weight without gutting a car. Yes, many of them get into spending some money but so does making HP. (Spending money on HP is for those who can't get the weight down.) J/K! <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> Totally just kidding...I'm not that narrow minded. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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And you come on here calling folks morons, losers, liers, etc... Putting down MTI's engine. Calling folks cars "**** cans." Somehow I really don't think Judson would approve of this sort of discharacter. He's too good a man for such childish nonsense.
BTW, my car was not gutted for the last NFRA event (that was against the rules...you must not have been there or you would know that simple fact) nor shall it be for the next one regardless of the weight rule. Might I suggest you at least make some attempt at knowing what you're talking about before spouting your ignorance in the future. Folks then might actually respect what you have to say.
There are many ways to reduce weight without gutting a car. Yes, many of them get into spending some money but so does making HP. (Spending money on HP is for those who can't get the weight down.) J/K! <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> Totally just kidding...I'm not that narrow minded. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS [quote]Originally posted by Tums:
<strong>Hey Badssmf you Houston guys really crack me up. I know you sig. says Fort Lauderdale. Road Runner encoding is great for tracing. HEHEHEHE</strong><hr></blockquote>
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<strong>Hey Badssmf you Houston guys really crack me up. I know you sig. says Fort Lauderdale. Road Runner encoding is great for tracing. HEHEHEHE</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS Congratulations Mr. Troll! You just earned a new profile <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Are you gonna come out from hiding behind the keyboard and tell us who you are? If not, we can trace the IP address even further and get Houston Road Runner security involved. They are pretty good about telling us whose account is using a specific IP address. If I have to take it that far, I WILL be letting Judson Massingill know what you are doing here.
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Are you gonna come out from hiding behind the keyboard and tell us who you are? If not, we can trace the IP address even further and get Houston Road Runner security involved. They are pretty good about telling us whose account is using a specific IP address. If I have to take it that far, I WILL be letting Judson Massingill know what you are doing here.
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Re: New sanctioning body AFBS [quote]Originally posted by Bad SS MF:
<strong>only the people who can't make real horse power gut there cars
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and what exactly does your car run at its "full manly weight" your a freakin idiot, SAM is a very reputable school with an awesome set of cars and drivers, you make a mochery of them posting this trash. Are you faster than Colonels 9's?? Yeah its all in the weight reduction, idiot.... <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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<strong>only the people who can't make real horse power gut there cars
</strong><hr></blockquote>
and what exactly does your car run at its "full manly weight" your a freakin idiot, SAM is a very reputable school with an awesome set of cars and drivers, you make a mochery of them posting this trash. Are you faster than Colonels 9's?? Yeah its all in the weight reduction, idiot.... <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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1997 Z28 *rip*