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Started installing front drag brakes... I'm about 1/2 way done with the install of aerospace front drag brakes and have nothing but positive things (almost!) to report thus far.
The instructions say you need to cut off both mounting ears, but I found you can get away with just shaving down just one of the ears. This means I'll be able to put my stock brakes on the front WO/ buying a new spindel arm (good news).
The strange front drag brakes include a new alum hub assembly, while these use the stock hub assembly. The bad news here is that the strange brakes save an additional 9#, but on the other hand aerospace allows you to retain your antilock brakes and costs around $450 less.
So far the fit and finish has been very high quality and the brakes look very nice. I did a scale-2-scale comparison and these will save me ~30# of weight, with ~20# of that being rotating weight. The rotating weight is pretty close to the center of rotation so its not _that_ significant, but it will help more than a straight 20# off the front.
On the minor down side the brake lines aerospace includes are not plug and play, I need to go down to PAW and find a couple fittings.
When I finish the install I'll report my streetability findings.
What are JS and the doubters going to say when I actually get my car down to the weight they claim it is? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
The instructions say you need to cut off both mounting ears, but I found you can get away with just shaving down just one of the ears. This means I'll be able to put my stock brakes on the front WO/ buying a new spindel arm (good news).
The strange front drag brakes include a new alum hub assembly, while these use the stock hub assembly. The bad news here is that the strange brakes save an additional 9#, but on the other hand aerospace allows you to retain your antilock brakes and costs around $450 less.
So far the fit and finish has been very high quality and the brakes look very nice. I did a scale-2-scale comparison and these will save me ~30# of weight, with ~20# of that being rotating weight. The rotating weight is pretty close to the center of rotation so its not _that_ significant, but it will help more than a straight 20# off the front.
On the minor down side the brake lines aerospace includes are not plug and play, I need to go down to PAW and find a couple fittings.
When I finish the install I'll report my streetability findings.
What are JS and the doubters going to say when I actually get my car down to the weight they claim it is? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Started installing front drag brakes... thanks for the info Terry. i am trying to decide on which drag brakes to get for my car right now, and am really looking forward to hearing how things go
Re: Started installing front drag brakes... Yeah, fronts are cake, very nice stuff! Now the rear is a different story. I had to order a set of .375 shims from Mosier, have the bearings pressed off, shims & bearings pressed on. Nice but a pain in the ***. Couplers with the Strange set were not a problem as I ran new lines anyway and used their flexible-braided to go from the calipers to the lines. Terry, did you get a new master cylinder with your set? I opted for a new manual one from Strange with seperate proportioning valves. Good stuff but Mosier having 2 different axel ends made mine a PITA.
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<small>[ July 06, 2002, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: The BeaSSt ]</small>
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... Dave I decided to stay with the stock power master in my car. The maual will save 15#, but the brakes don't wory very well with them at all.
Re: Started installing front drag brakes... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Dave I decided to stay with the stock power master in my car. The maual will save 15#, but the brakes don't wory very well with them at all.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your what hurts? Come on, they don't work very well at all????? Jeez I guess thats why Strange sells the **** out of em, not just for our cars but across the board in drag racing. My son drives the car. I would never compromise his safety for any reason. The manual system works just fine.
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<strong>Dave I decided to stay with the stock power master in my car. The maual will save 15#, but the brakes don't wory very well with them at all.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your what hurts? Come on, they don't work very well at all????? Jeez I guess thats why Strange sells the **** out of em, not just for our cars but across the board in drag racing. My son drives the car. I would never compromise his safety for any reason. The manual system works just fine.
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Your what hurts? Come on, they don't work very well at all????? Jeez I guess thats why Strange sells the **** out of em, not just for our cars but across the board in drag racing. My son drives the car. I would never compromise his safety for any reason. The manual system works just fine.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've seen two late model fourth gens that now have problems stopping beacuse of the new manual master. So you're saying yours works as well as stock?
Your what hurts? Come on, they don't work very well at all????? Jeez I guess thats why Strange sells the **** out of em, not just for our cars but across the board in drag racing. My son drives the car. I would never compromise his safety for any reason. The manual system works just fine.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've seen two late model fourth gens that now have problems stopping beacuse of the new manual master. So you're saying yours works as well as stock?
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
to stop the car. Not a problem, we knew this going in. I would not drive on the street with them at all. They get very hot. They are designed to stop the car once and then cool down. You are not going to drive em on the street are ya?
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For sure! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
to stop the car. Not a problem, we knew this going in. I would not drive on the street with them at all. They get very hot. They are designed to stop the car once and then cool down. You are not going to drive em on the street are ya?
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... Just so others following know for sure what Dave is getting at.
You pop a motor on the far end of the track, and loose power, you loose your brakes too! Unless you have a manual setup like Dave is talking about. I've seen cars loose power on the far end...several times. If you do...don't make the mistake of pumping your brakes....mash the pedal and don't let up until your stopped ( at least that is what I've been told...once you let up you won't have near the braking power on the next push, and if your still going 100+....well you get the idea. With Dave's setup...no worries!
I got the strange fronts, and will likely be adding the full setup soon.
You pop a motor on the far end of the track, and loose power, you loose your brakes too! Unless you have a manual setup like Dave is talking about. I've seen cars loose power on the far end...several times. If you do...don't make the mistake of pumping your brakes....mash the pedal and don't let up until your stopped ( at least that is what I've been told...once you let up you won't have near the braking power on the next push, and if your still going 100+....well you get the idea. With Dave's setup...no worries!
I got the strange fronts, and will likely be adding the full setup soon.
Re: Started installing front drag brakes... No they do not work as well as stock. They do require more pedal pressure to stop the car. Not a problem, we knew this going in. I would not drive on the street with them at all. They get very hot. They are designed to stop the car once and then cool down. You are not going to drive em on the street are ya? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Burger,Who are you going to let drive your car once your in a wheelchair,better choose a designated driver.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll just get a 85 pound Korean girl to drive and post time as if I drove it, like you do. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Burger,Who are you going to let drive your car once your in a wheelchair,better choose a designated driver.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll just get a 85 pound Korean girl to drive and post time as if I drove it, like you do. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... "in the 7th month of the year 2002 a Burger shall be defeated by the c5 gods<stealth>.He shall roam the streets of california in a chariot<wheelchair>.....he will forever be plagued as a mute.........the c5 gods shall inherit the earth" nostraROMus---chapterXXV
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... Why do you keep referring to an 85lb Korean woman,C5PIG is a 185lb police officer,keep it up,I don't think he'll appreciate being referred to as a woman.Why did you get rid of your C5 6-speed?It's not because you couldn't drive it is it.
Re: Started installing front drag brakes... It's starting to sound like there is going to be a party out in CA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Maybe I should take a trip out there .. I never been to CA, It could be an action packed week <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Why do you keep referring to an 85lb Korean woman</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1) Because it's FUNNY!
2) Since most of us fall in the 160-190# category to drop 100#s via a driver we'd need to throw a 85# Korean women in the car.
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Why did you get rid of your C5 6-speed?It's not because you couldn't drive it is it.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The last 6spd car I really raced ran 10.81@129 in the summer heat. I got rid of the C5 because I found someone who wanted it, and I wanted another Z28 project.
Honestly I don't get why you didn't post C5PIG was driving here like you did on the Corvette forum. You even made it sound like you were driving by referring to all the wheel spin you were getting off the line. What's the raceweight on your car with C5PIG, 3350#?
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Why do you keep referring to an 85lb Korean woman</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1) Because it's FUNNY!
2) Since most of us fall in the 160-190# category to drop 100#s via a driver we'd need to throw a 85# Korean women in the car.
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Why did you get rid of your C5 6-speed?It's not because you couldn't drive it is it.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The last 6spd car I really raced ran 10.81@129 in the summer heat. I got rid of the C5 because I found someone who wanted it, and I wanted another Z28 project.
Honestly I don't get why you didn't post C5PIG was driving here like you did on the Corvette forum. You even made it sound like you were driving by referring to all the wheel spin you were getting off the line. What's the raceweight on your car with C5PIG, 3350#?
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
I spoke to C5 pig on the phone last nite and he will just happen to be in CA next week on vacation.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He's welcome to come by and chat/check out the car.
I spoke to C5 pig on the phone last nite and he will just happen to be in CA next week on vacation.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He's welcome to come by and chat/check out the car.
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Re: Started installing front drag brakes... These threats of physical violence are GAY. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
Grow up for Gods sake what are you in high school?
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Grow up for Gods sake what are you in high school?
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