Paging Top 6 NA LS1s
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Paging Top 6 NA LS1s You all have added cubic inches but all have different sized engines. I was wondering the specs on the heads and cam and chassis set ups make you each different and also the things that everyone of your car has. How about torque arms. Is everyone using LS6 heads. I am building a big cubed motor and was wondering how to set up my car and what you find works.
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s I have NO secrets.
I have the S1 cam and Stage III LS6 heads that anyone can get from MTI. I believe I'm still the only one to run 9s with a hydraulic cam.
I run an old Randow Tech TQ arm. Nothin' fancy.
Feel free to ask any questions about my old setup. There is nothing I won't tell you if I know.
I have the S1 cam and Stage III LS6 heads that anyone can get from MTI. I believe I'm still the only one to run 9s with a hydraulic cam.
I run an old Randow Tech TQ arm. Nothin' fancy.
Feel free to ask any questions about my old setup. There is nothing I won't tell you if I know.
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s Hey, I'll go one better than that. Here are all my mods...
MTI 422CI Super Stroker
S1 hydraulic cam (244/244 .612/.612 112 LSA) Shifts at 6800 RPM
LS6 intake manifold
Whisper air lid
85mm Granetelli MAF sensor
MTI ported throttle body
Throttle stop mod
Throttle body coolant bypass mod
Throttle cable mod
160 degree thermostat
ASP underdrive crankshaft and alternator pulleys
Lucas matched 50lb injectors (at ~58psi)
MAF Translator
NOS 255 L/HR inline fuel pump
Walbro 340 L/HR intank fuel pump
Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump
NGK TR-55 spark plugs gapped at .045
Whisper 1 7/8" headers
MTI programming-lower fan settings, rev limiter set at 7200rpm, speed limiter removed, rear O2 sensors removed, EGR removed, idle raised to 1200, programming for larger injectors.
TH-350 transmission with TCI transbrake. Installed with Yank conversion kit.
B&M Hammer shifter
Yank custom built 245mm, 6-bolt mounting lugs, 2.6 STR, 4600rpm stall converter
MSD shift light
B&M Supercooler
Moser 12-bolt rearend with 33 spline axles, HD Eaton posi, and 4.10 gears
29x10x15 Hoosier slicks on 10x15 7.5" backspacing Weld Draglites
4.5x15 Hoosier skinnies on 3.5x15 Weld Draglites
Front & Rear Afco drag shocks
Hal drag springs in the front
Mark Williams carbon fiber driveshaft
Random Tech adjustable torque arm
Jay Billingsley lower control arms
Strange front brakes
TByrne adjustable panhard rod
Hotchkis subframe connectors
Wolfe Racecraft rear swaybar
LCA Relocators
Removed front swaybar
Chromoly K-member and A-arms
Optima red top battery located in the rear
Many weight reductions
MTI 422CI Super Stroker
S1 hydraulic cam (244/244 .612/.612 112 LSA) Shifts at 6800 RPM
LS6 intake manifold
Whisper air lid
85mm Granetelli MAF sensor
MTI ported throttle body
Throttle stop mod
Throttle body coolant bypass mod
Throttle cable mod
160 degree thermostat
ASP underdrive crankshaft and alternator pulleys
Lucas matched 50lb injectors (at ~58psi)
MAF Translator
NOS 255 L/HR inline fuel pump
Walbro 340 L/HR intank fuel pump
Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump
NGK TR-55 spark plugs gapped at .045
Whisper 1 7/8" headers
MTI programming-lower fan settings, rev limiter set at 7200rpm, speed limiter removed, rear O2 sensors removed, EGR removed, idle raised to 1200, programming for larger injectors.
TH-350 transmission with TCI transbrake. Installed with Yank conversion kit.
B&M Hammer shifter
Yank custom built 245mm, 6-bolt mounting lugs, 2.6 STR, 4600rpm stall converter
MSD shift light
B&M Supercooler
Moser 12-bolt rearend with 33 spline axles, HD Eaton posi, and 4.10 gears
29x10x15 Hoosier slicks on 10x15 7.5" backspacing Weld Draglites
4.5x15 Hoosier skinnies on 3.5x15 Weld Draglites
Front & Rear Afco drag shocks
Hal drag springs in the front
Mark Williams carbon fiber driveshaft
Random Tech adjustable torque arm
Jay Billingsley lower control arms
Strange front brakes
TByrne adjustable panhard rod
Hotchkis subframe connectors
Wolfe Racecraft rear swaybar
LCA Relocators
Removed front swaybar
Chromoly K-member and A-arms
Optima red top battery located in the rear
Many weight reductions
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s Wow thats awesome Colonel thanks. I really like the part about the hyd. cam. And i got Judson's info from his site. Pains site is down and BeaSSt just says SAM 436. We could start with the first thing it takes to building the motor and thats the size of the bore and stroke and also what sleeves are being used.
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s My block was done by ARE, using whatever sleeves they use. The bore is 4.100", and the crank is stock. The rods are Eagle H-beams, and Ross custom forged pistons. ARP hardware throughout (main studs, ARP capscrew rodbolts, ARP headstuds).
The heads are ARE 2.02/1.57" 5.3 truck castings, with Comp 1.55" springs. The cam is a custom Comp solid roller, but I'd rather not give out the specs on the cam. It's fairly big, though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Top it off with a stock LS6 intake manifold and ported throttle body...
The heads are ARE 2.02/1.57" 5.3 truck castings, with Comp 1.55" springs. The cam is a custom Comp solid roller, but I'd rather not give out the specs on the cam. It's fairly big, though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Top it off with a stock LS6 intake manifold and ported throttle body...
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s mine is very similar to colonels.
MTI 422 with raised compression, o-ringed block
LS6 stage III heads
S1 hydraulic camshaft
built t350 with ati tbrake
custom ramair setup
stock fuel system
stock rear shocks springs
hal shock springs up front
chromoly kmember/a-arms
Madman torque arm/and lca's
bmr extreme drag swaybar
lots of weight removal
lots of little custom home fabbed stuff
hopefully will have website back online one day
MTI 422 with raised compression, o-ringed block
LS6 stage III heads
S1 hydraulic camshaft
built t350 with ati tbrake
custom ramair setup
stock fuel system
stock rear shocks springs
hal shock springs up front
chromoly kmember/a-arms
Madman torque arm/and lca's
bmr extreme drag swaybar
lots of weight removal
lots of little custom home fabbed stuff
hopefully will have website back online one day
Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s Very interesting...colonel runs 50lb injectors w/inline,intank and boost a pump while pain is running a stock fuel system. That's quite a differance between the two. Great topic by the way.
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s Also Pain and Colonel use hyd rollers. But notice they both said lots of weight reduction so that might make up for the difference between the solid roller and the hyd cams.
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Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by theblur98ss:
<strong> Very interesting...colonel runs 50lb injectors w/inline,intank and boost a pump while pain is running a stock fuel system. That's quite a differance between the two. Great topic by the way. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually I should correct myself. I also run flowmatched injectors, in fact Colonel recommended them to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> . Other than that the fuel delivery system is stock. Might be interesting to see if I get any gain by upgrading the system.
<strong> Very interesting...colonel runs 50lb injectors w/inline,intank and boost a pump while pain is running a stock fuel system. That's quite a differance between the two. Great topic by the way. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually I should correct myself. I also run flowmatched injectors, in fact Colonel recommended them to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> . Other than that the fuel delivery system is stock. Might be interesting to see if I get any gain by upgrading the system.
Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Colonel:
<strong> I have NO secrets.
I run an old Randow Tech TQ arm. Nothin' fancy.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It seems you do have a secret Colonel....never heard of this torque arm before....hmmmmmm, so that's why you are launching so hard, using the top secret Randow torque arm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> I have NO secrets.
I run an old Randow Tech TQ arm. Nothin' fancy.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It seems you do have a secret Colonel....never heard of this torque arm before....hmmmmmm, so that's why you are launching so hard, using the top secret Randow torque arm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Paging Top 6 NA LS1s </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mikey:
<strong> I'll take the 5th...lol </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Talk about punting.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> I'll take the 5th...lol </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Talk about punting.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />