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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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So I got a line-lock for my front brakes. Problem is, you need to use a special computer to tell the traction control module to run so that all the air is removed. One mechanic told me to drive it on a gravel road and slam the brakes, which would engage the little motor, thus pushing out the bubbles. Unfortunatley, my baby don't run on gravel, so any suggestions on how to bleed that air (short of taking it in and paying a couple Benjamins to a brake shop)?
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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WTF are you talking about.Just follow the SLP instructions to the T and you will be fine. I didn't do any of what you said and everything works fine on my car
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Did the brake fluid level fall too low getting air in the system, and now you need to bleed the ABS?
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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WTF are you talking about.Just follow the SLP instructions to the T and you will be fine. I didn't do any of what you said and everything works fine on my car
Really? Are you having fun w/ me? I thought anytime you open up any part of the brake line, it'll send air into that unit. If you look in the manual (which I rarely do) it says and I quote "...the brake system cannot be bled without the use of a Tech-1 or T-100 (CAMS) scan tool." (Ch.9-7 of the Haynes Repair Manual)
So are you saying that by simply unscrewing the line between the Master Cyl. and the Traction control unit I won't be opening that line? 'Cause if you are right (and I have no reason not to believe a guy in the 11 sec. club with over a 1000 posts) I'll be one happy camper
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Check this out dude. I put that SLP line lock on my car also. Of course I had air in my lines afterwards. I needed to run somewhere quick and didnt have time to bleed them. I drove the car anyway with the pedal going almost to the floor before stopping. A couple of pumps before I pull up to a stop was all it took. Well I cant remember when it happened but my brakes started working fine on their own. Somehow the air got out of there and its been fine ever since. Thats been nearly 6 months.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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yeah i did the same thing just bleed your brakes when your done.....thats all i did then you can do this!

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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That was a sick Vid DNM12!!!!
ME WAN DO DAT

Unfortunately, I'm still getting mixed advice here. When I previously worked on my front brakes, I tried to bleed them using the standard method. But I couldn't get all the air out.

So I begrudgingly took it in to a brake shop and they confirmed what the manual specifically states, that you must use a special scan tool. They used it to activate the Traction Control motor and my brakes worked great after that. Also, the SLP kit has new lines to/from the new silanoid, which would inherently introduce more air into the system.

So 02SOMWS6, if you are reading this, maybe your ride doesn't have TC. NOTE: I have the SLP swith that automatically turns the TC off upon ignition, but this does not affect my problem.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Here, check the video in my sig out. I have a hurst line lock in mine. Good stuff!
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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I love it!!!!!
I'm getting a little jealous here (see problem below)
Need help!!!
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Strange, I have TC and all I did was a complete system bleed (all 4 wheels, which is good maintenance anyway) and everything works fine.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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when I did mine all that was needed were the front two since those were the only lines opened up during the install..
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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I installed all the lines left the nut into the abs a little loose.

Tapped the lines and solenoid with a wrench to get the easy bubbles of air out.

Took the cap off the reservoir and cupped my hand over the top but leaving a hole in my hand to blow into. Blew into the reservoir creating positive pressure. Tapped the lines/solenoid at the same time and watched for the bubbles to stop coming out of the line into the abs. When the bubbles stopped (while continuing to keep pressure) I tightened the nut.

I read it on here awhile back. Did it on my car along with my fiancee's without issue.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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I put a hurst line lock on mine and just bled the brakes the old fashion way. No problems here and that was 3 years ago.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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I gravity bled the new lines to at least get most of the air out before tightening them to the ABS block. Then I did a regular old brake bleed on all 4 corners. That was 2 years ago, never had a problem since.

Some have said to cover all ground you can go out and just slam on the brakes hard enough to trigger the ABS and make it cycle. This should push out any bubbles from the ABS block further down the lines, and then bleed again the old fashioned way to get those remnant bubbles out.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mcamp001
Strange, I have TC and all I did was a complete system bleed (all 4 wheels, which is good maintenance anyway) and everything works fine.
^ me too ^
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Just bleed the brakes start with the passenger side rear and work your way forward. A mitty vac helps if you are doing it by yourself.
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kanewolf
That was a sick Vid DNM12!!!!
ME WAN DO DAT

Unfortunately, I'm still getting mixed advice here. When I previously worked on my front brakes, I tried to bleed them using the standard method. But I couldn't get all the air out.

So I begrudgingly took it in to a brake shop and they confirmed what the manual specifically states, that you must use a special scan tool. They used it to activate the Traction Control motor and my brakes worked great after that. Also, the SLP kit has new lines to/from the new silanoid, which would inherently introduce more air into the system.

So 02SOMWS6, if you are reading this, maybe your ride doesn't have TC. NOTE: I have the SLP swith that automatically turns the TC off upon ignition, but this does not affect my problem.
thanks about the video, i have TCS or ASR in the 98 as well as the SLP TCS module like yourself, and my line lockers work and have had no issues
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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The manuall is stating that incase you get air into the ABS hydraulic controll unit.
Even if you did, you can get it out w/o a scan tool.
Just bleed it out normal. Drive the car. At 15mph or so the ABSHCU will do a self check.
It will cycle the dump valves & any air trapped in there will go to the wheels on the next brake application. Just rebleed it & your set. That would be a worse case senerio. Usually a line lock install is pretty strai foward.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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same here, I just did and old fashion bleed job
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wrencher
The manuall is stating that incase you get air into the ABS hydraulic controll unit.
Even if you did, you can get it out w/o a scan tool.
Just bleed it out normal. Drive the car. At 15mph or so the ABSHCU will do a self check.
It will cycle the dump valves & any air trapped in there will go to the wheels on the next brake application. Just rebleed it & your set. That would be a worse case senerio. Usually a line lock install is pretty strai foward.
Wouldn't attaching the new lines from the solinoid put air into the ABS hyd. control unit?
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