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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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The cage install is progressing!

On friday night, I finally pulled the dash out of the car and started tearing into the heater box and air bag.

On Saturday, I got the floor plates welded in place. And started fitting the front down bars.

Then yesterday I got the main hoop, the rear down bars, the front down bars the front halo bar in and the Drivers door bar all in place. I'll try and get some pictures up this evening.

I have a question for some of you technical types. It has to do with how this sentence is worded.

Unless an O.E.M. frame rail is located below and outside of driver's legs (i.e. '55 Chevy, '65 Corvette, etc.) a rocker or sill bar, minimum 1 5/8-inch (41.2 mm) x .083 (2.1 mm) CM or .118 (3.0 mm) MS or 2-inch x 2-inch x .058-inch (50.8 x 50.8 x 1.5 mm) CM or MS rectangular, is mandatory in any car with a modified floor or rocker box within the roll cage uprights (excluding six square feet of transmission maintenance opening).
If you take out the () and Commas, it reads, Unless an OEM frame rail is located below and outside of the drivers legs a rocker or sill bar is mandatory in any car with a modified floor or rocker box within the roll cage uprights.

In my case my floor is unmodified and my rocker box is outside of my uprights... So am I legal without the sill bar?

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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You do not need a sill bar to get an NHRA 8.50 tag with stock floors and rockers.

I believe its needed for an IHRA sportsman cage cert though, at least thats what an IHRA tech guy told me but I dont have a rulebook to confirm that..
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Thanks, Kevin.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kp
You do not need a sill bar to get an NHRA 8.50 tag with stock floors and rockers.
Thats what I was told also.

It looks like I will not run one so I can keep the stock seat belt for insurance reasons (will still have a harness)
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Is that a pre bent cage or u build it all?? Looks like a super nice cage. You pull ure windshield also?
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The cage is a kit by Art Morrison. I had the windshield pulled to make it easier for the install. I'm glad I did, it only cost me $55 to do it.

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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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If you tack in the main hoop, then install the front bars and windshield bar, you can break the tacks on the main hoop and tilt it back and weld the rest up so you don't have to remove the windshield.

Then you weld in the door bars and behind the seat bars.

Just a suggestion for people who don't want to pull the windshield.

BTW what's the ary morrison kit go for and do they have bent over the seat bars?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan K
The cage is a kit by Art Morrison. I had the windshield pulled to make it easier for the install. I'm glad I did, it only cost me $55 to do it.

Ryan K.
I would keep the glass out untill the dash pad/cover is back in!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Looks good!
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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That is one of the best fitting cages I have seen, very tight.


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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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that's a very nice cage, mind posting a link?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Keep in mind a sill bar is required if you do swing-outs.

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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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i think this is the link

http://www.artmorrison.com/rollcage/racebars.cfm
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Villain281H
Keep in mind a sill bar is required if you do swing-outs.

Derek
Faster than 9.0 right? Or 10.0?


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David,

On any car requiring a roll cage that has a swing-out driver's door bar, a sill bar is required.

Derek
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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nice cage, I was just wandering has anybody ever done a 10 pt. and kept the heater box?
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Thoes cages are one of the nicest ones iv seen! There pretty cheap too. Does anyone know how much the cromoly ones are? Or how much more it is over the steel ones?
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
Thoes cages are one of the nicest ones iv seen! There pretty cheap too. Does anyone know how much the cromoly ones are? Or how much more it is over the steel ones?
Do a search and you'll find the $$ and weight differences as they've been posted plenty of times.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Villain281H
David,

On any car requiring a roll cage that has a swing-out driver's door bar, a sill bar is required.

Derek
I don't know where you are getting this info...

Last time I read thru the NHRA rulebook, sillbars are ONLY required on unibody cars IF the floorboards have been modified
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