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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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TSP 408 shortblock
Stage 3 tsp LS6 plus hand worked locally milled 59.5
YT rockers 11.64scr 8.54 dcr
Fast 92/92
24x/24x 62x/6xx 112+2
EWP
6speed thru TEX clutch
4.11 9"
Numbers 467hp 445tq
cutout open 476hp
Dynoed on dynojet by Geoff at EPS Great Guy lot of good info!
Thinking about going to TFS235's what are your thought on swicthing heads and dyno results?? Sorry dont have the graph Geoff didnt have printer on dyno computer!
GRAPH ON POST #22 THANKS MACH1

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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You will definitely pick up a lot with the TFS 235's, the question is how much? Won't know until you do it

I will say I think its worth it and their are a few recent 408's with similar mods as yours making 540-550rwhp but those are Vettes with 4.10's. I think 530 is within reason with your setup depending on how well the cam matches up to the heads. Also make sure the valvetrain is set up properly.

Can you post the graph? Its definitely very low for a 408 with those parts. What is the exhaust setup?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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What headers, y-pipe, size, where is the cutout at?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Kooks 1 7/8 flowmaster merge, cutoff under pass rear seat, magnaflow 3" exhaust
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Unless the head porter has a lot of experience in LS style heads and have proven results time and time again, I'd say the heads are to blame for your low numbers. All your other mods look good.

With a good ported 243 head, you should hit 500 RWHP with no problem.
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Flow numbers on the heads were 315int 215exh at .600
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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afr during pulls? what do your timing tables look like? what did the local porter do to the heads?
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should be alot higer maybe if those were stock 3243's but stage III from tsp how many miles are on the motor?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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cleaned the combustion chambers! Dont think stock heads would be better than stage 3 heads 2.08 1.60 valves opening to 4.00 bore etc...
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Waiting on Geoff to email me the dyno sheet!!
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peak flow numbers arent everything.... what does the whole flow curve look like
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Originally Posted by LS1ROPER
cleaned the combustion chambers! Dont think stock heads would be better than stage 3 heads 2.08 1.60 valves opening to 4.00 bore etc...

thats not what i was saying i meant your numbers look like your car had stock heads not CNC'd heads with a 2.08 valve
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lft int exh
200 140 112
300 204 177
400 258 199
500 296 209
550 310 213
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Originally Posted by smok'nZ
thats not what i was saying i meant your numbers look like your car had stock heads not CNC'd heads with a 2.08 valve
Sorry mistook what you meant
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do you have any dead animals stuck in the intake?
looking fwd to seeing the dyno graph
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/\ /\ /\ for real. i would think that thing would easily put down 520 ish.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Geoff sent the sheets but I cant open them, anyone want try, send me your email thanks!
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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I went from the TSP stage 1 heads to the TFS 225's and would never look back. This is on a 6.0L. I think it would be a great change for your car. I love the animal stuck in the intake theory, lol
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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If it were my motor and I was sure the tune- afr, timing ect. was right I would look really hard at mechanical, leak down test, cam timing (with a degree wheel not just dot to dot)
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