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Old 09-29-2011, 05:54 PM
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i would have thought more with afr 205s 59cc,243/251 .624/.624 109 +3,super victor,pro systems 930 cfm carb built for the combo.msd ign and cometic .040 gaskets.

It is through a 4l60 with a edge 5000 converter and a 9" with 4:56 gears. stock lower end ls1

I sold the car but the guy that bought it sent me the scan it runs 10.95's all day @125 ish. with a weight of 3080 with driver .It is set up with a 2 stage kit but he wont spray it. how much do you think the auto /converter and 9" is eating up? or do the numbers seem about right?
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those numbers seem low as hell man but 10.95s is haulin ***** so who cares bout the numbers
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yeah he sent me 3 time slips and they are all 10.95 and one 10.91 i will see if i can attach them. i think maybe its the converter doing it.it just seamed like it was too loose or never stopped slipping. he is the 11.0 dial car
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yes def. the converter bring loose dont help and that rear takes a good mount as well mine made 438/403 to the tires with 4000yank 3.73 rear 10 bolt and heads cam bolt ons first time to track in mine i did 11.7@114 but i need way more track time i sucked lol
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Originally Posted by silverstreak98maro
yes def. the converter bring loose dont help and that rear takes a good mount as well mine made 438/403 to the tires with 4000yank 3.73 rear 10 bolt and heads cam bolt ons first time to track in mine i did 11.7@114 but i need way more track time i sucked lol
438whp and only 114mph trap speed? a true 438whp stalled a4 should pull 125mph trap speed regardless of the 60ft. Being you ran a 11.7 Im guessing your 60ft was around 1.6? Not knocking bro, but something dont add up.

Op, with the 5000 stall your not going to see those magical m6 numbers. Being the car is trapping 125mph tells power is where it should be!!
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438whp and only 114mph trap speed? a true 438whp stalled a4 should pull 125mph trap speed regardless of the 60ft. Being you ran a 11.7 Im guessing your 60ft was around 1.6? Not knocking bro, but something dont add up.

Op, with the 5000 stall your not going to see those magical m6 numbers. Being the car is trapping 125mph tells power is where it should be!!
ya i dont kno man first time to track and on the slicks i was running i was blowin them off a lil but yes 1.64 60' .8347 reaction 1/8 7.51@91 cars got lot more in it i need track time bad and 125? idk bout tht my buddy runs a sik *** 418 stroker n runs 11.30s to 11.40s and fastest out the back door was 119mph
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Originally Posted by silverstreak98maro
ya i dont kno man first time to track and on the slicks i was running i was blowin them off a lil but yes 1.64 60' .8347 reaction 1/8 7.51@91 cars got lot more in it i need track time bad and 125? idk bout tht my buddy runs a sik *** 418 stroker n runs 11.30s to 11.40s and fastest out the back door was 119mph
Are you running in high elevation or was the da really high?
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
438whp and only 114mph trap speed? a true 438whp stalled a4 should pull 125mph trap speed regardless of the 60ft. Being you ran a 11.7 Im guessing your 60ft was around 1.6? Not knocking bro, but something dont add up.

Op, with the 5000 stall your not going to see those magical m6 numbers. Being the car is trapping 125mph tells power is where it should be!!
I disagree my full weight ws6 is a auto and made 436 and trap 118, 125 sounds like trap speed for and superlight m6.
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The hp numbers look ok to me considering the 9", 4.56's, and the auto, but the torque seems pretty low, probably from that big single plane manifold though. If it were mine and I had the $, I'd convert to EFI and use a ported FAST manifold along with a different cam with alot less overlap. Torque would pick up big time and come at lower rpms. From the looks of that graph and having a stock bottom end, I'm guessing he's shifting before the hp peak too.

Track times are where it's at though, and as long as the motor is not having any blow-by and he's happy with the times, forget about it.


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Originally Posted by blocc monster
I disagree my full weight ws6 is a auto and made 436 and trap 118, 125 sounds like trap speed for and superlight m6.
436whp and 118 traps means your on a happy dyno...you can disagree all you want but it is what it is bro. Thats why dyno numbers dont mean much to me. I had a 383 lt1 m6 car that dynod 380whp but trapped 118mph(full weight). Also ABA383 stalled a4 lt1 dyno'd 375whp and traps 120-121mph. See where im getting at? Im not knocking anybodies setup...my point is dyno numbers vary across the board and should only be used for tuning purposes.

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I think the numbers look just fine considering the drivetrain. It absolutely should be a 10 second car at that weight.

kinglt-1...you have to remember that *most* guys on this forum just do all horsepower mods with no supporting drivetrain/suspension mods to complement them. Then they come on here and cry about their track results.
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125 with a 3080 raceweight and 430whp seems very reasonable. i really think you'd need to spin that car to 7500 or more to take advtange of the cam. the drivetrain is definitely not helping the car make dyno numbers or mph worth a damn, but will get the car down the track the same over and over and over. a friend had an almost identical setup in a 4th gen camaro with 9" th400 390 gear etc etc with a stock bottom ls1 and trapped 131.

to the guy trapping 114 with 438whp...my lid muffler car traps 109, does that mean it makes 380?




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