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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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Do not waste your time trying to port the LS6 intake. I guarantee a cutout will get you over 400. Your headers are fine, the ypipe and the cam are not optimal. That torque curve is great though, I'm sure it moves out regardless of its numbers.

Don't waste time? You do know that for quite a few years there were no Fast intakes and it was very common for shops to port the LS6 manifols? I am sure you would be one of the ones to recommend for him to drop $1000 + on a fast setup to pickup 10-15 hp when he could pick up 8-10 hp for a few hundred.. There is almost as much HP to be had with a ported tb & ported LS6 on his setup for a fraction of the cost of a fast setup which is not uncommon for people to drop $1200 -1300 on new.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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Don't waste time? You do know that for quite a few years there were no Fast intakes and it was very common for shops to port the LS6 manifols? I am sure you would be one of the ones to recommend for him to drop $1000 + on a fast setup to pickup 10-15 hp when he could pick up 8-10 hp for a few hundred.. There is almost as much HP to be had with a ported tb & ported LS6 on his setup for a fraction of the cost of a fast setup which is not uncommon for people to drop $1200 -1300 on new.
Actually I am NOT going to recommend he get a FAST because I believe it is far from necessary for what he is trying to do. He can obtain his goals in many other ways. The thing about the LS6 intake is the low HP gained (if any) from portwork is not worth its price unless you are experienced with porting. Opening up the inlet and port matching is the best most average people will/need to/should do. I have not seen anyone gain 10hp from porting one, except the 90mm inlet mod. A ported throttle body, however, is a good idea!
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:27 AM
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The important things in this thread were already said, in scattered bits, before I got here. To organize the important info:
  • The dyno is just a tool.
  • Your torque curve is great for a DD; 350ftlbs at 3000rpm, with street manners. Afterall, you're running a 224 cam, not a donkey dick. You're happy with how it runs, don't chase a number.
  • If you're going to throw any more money at this thing, in search of a few more cheap ponies, it should be an electric cutout ($150 in the classifieds) and Chris1313RA ($200 new).
  • Your butt-dyno will be happy, street manners won't be affected, and staying cost efficient. Balance; that's the key with a DD.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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I couldn't agree more with you JerseyMike. So even with the smaller primaries on the bbk's, I would be ok adding a cutout in the y pipe before the merge correct? I would much rather spend $500 on ram air and a cutout or two than spend $1000+ on an intake that will only gain me 10-15 hp. Its better to have a cut out in both sides of the Y right?
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:05 AM
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I couldn't agree more with you JerseyMike. So even with the smaller primaries on the bbk's, I would be ok adding a cutout in the y pipe before the merge correct? I would much rather spend $500 on ram air and a cutout or two than spend $1000+ on an intake that will only gain me 10-15 hp. Its better to have a cut out in both sides of the Y right?
If you go before the y merge, then you need 2 cutouts right behind the headers. If you only want 1, then place it somewhere on your y pipe. Are you running an ory or catted y?
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:09 AM
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It's an ORY. I figured since the Y is 2.5" until the merge, the higher up the Y pipe input the cut outs there will be less restriction which would free up a bit more power. Even if it's only another 1-2 hp over having the cutout in the merge. Am I thinking correctly here?
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler_PinkertonZ28
It's an ORY. I figured since the Y is 2.5" until the merge, the higher up the Y pipe i put the cut outs there will be less restriction which would free up a bit more power. Even if it's only another 1-2 hp over having the cutout in the merge. Am I thinking correctly here?
Yes, that's called "Open Headers," and it will net a little more than 1-2hp versus a cutout in the mid-pipe.
However, there are so many cons to doing that in your case. This is a daily-driven car. The sound of open-headers isn't all that pleasant. You don't want THAT much attention on the street when going WOT. The cost would be like $300, and "manners" completely go out the window.

Stick to one cut-out, put it after the merge. Most people put it up right before the rear axle, for clearance, but there are a few more horses to be had if you want to throw it up closer to the engine.



As far as a FAST, there are deals popping up on the internet all the time. You can pick one up used for like $700, sell your LS6 intake for $300, and the upgrade is only $400 and driving manners aren't touched at all. I'd much rather buy a used FAST than port a LS6 manifold.


Just keep in mind, it's your DD, and it's plenty healthy as-is.
Good luck.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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I'm puting my cutout about an inch after the merge, but I haven't looked at the clearance yet. Hopefully I will be ok. Anyone have any input on this...?

And I agree 110% on getting one versus 2. Its a dd and it will be way too loud for street manners...
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Sounds like I'll be doing one cutout then. Clearance will be a big determining factor when it comes to where in the I pipe to put it. It seems like DMH is the favorite from searches. How hard are they to wire up?
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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There is nothing wrong with bbk headers/y pipe. I think a cut out is def what you need.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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Tyler...dont put so much emphasis on the dyno numbers. Take it to the track and see what MPH it produces. That's the true test of performance. Always has, always will be.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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After the 12 bolt goes in this week, I will try to get to the track before I ship out.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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those are horrible numbers for whats done to it
i agree , and it was on a dynojet
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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op, dyno numbers are not everything, , there are some good ideas in this thread and some bad ones, if it runs good than you should be happy, i didnt read the 2nd page but what injectors are you running?
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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It's the stock injectors. I know at WOT they are at 96%. They'll be changed out before power gets too much higher.
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