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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Callies stroker kit
Rapid Stage 2 LS1 heads 66cc
242/250 .595/.595 109 cam
LSX 90mm

Stock Compression Ratio
Kooks 1 7/8" ORY LM
Steel Driveshaft and flywheel
Moser 4:11 85W140 oil
Stock 17" tires/wheels
No Vacuum pump or electric water pump
10W40 castrol dino oil

477 rear wheel Horsepower
440 Rear wheel torque
Car feels and sounds like a monster. Thats all I can say. Cant ask for a better daily driver.

Mikey will post the graphs
Thanks to Chip and Susan for doin a great job. I highly recommend Phoenix performance for Dynoing and Rapid for customer service/tuning.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Why did you stick with the stock compression ratio?
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Stock compression? If you have 66cc chambers, say...5cc valve reliefs, the pistons still pop .007" out of the hole (like stock), and you use a .46-.52 gasket (which I think is clost to stock and/or the felpro set...you're at like 10.8-11:1.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Something is off. 66cc is less than 1cc under stock, the valve reliefs (if he has them)are going to drop it a bit. If everything else is the same, he's going to be around stock compression. I just don't understand why they didn't bump it up to 10.8:1 - 11.0:1. It would help out that cam quite a bit and bring a little of his torque back in.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Not bad at all, congratulations! The results are similar to my all-bore numbers peak wise (although I have about 7ci on you) , Id love to see the graph because that 109 LSA is probably giving you really nice area under the curve too.

My best dyno was 478/455, last dyno after it got rebuilt was 475/450. Im using a 242/242 lunati cam, LS6 intake, same rear, qtp 1 3/4" headers, cutout. If you arent using a cutout, thats a good idea for the track and will pick you up some more ponies.

Looks like we'd be a pretty close race again...remember when you had a T1 and I had a B1 and we were running at beaver springs? Be fun to see how they stack up now.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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the stroke matters. with a 4" stroke...its 10.8+. with a 3.622" its 10.0
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Here's the graph Sam:

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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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First of all they was me..built it with the help of a buddy. I was hoping for a little higher compression ratio but I think the valve reliefs and extra stroke are about a wash. I ran it on 92 octane without a hint of detonation. I did not want a high lift cfm LS6 head since it is 99% daily driver and 1% track and an extra $1000 without core. Im sure with small cc LS6/4.8L heads and all the other tricks it would have been well over 500rwhp..the big headers are hurting the bottom end too. Maybe Im wrong..but this is how I drive it everyday..no dyno tricks..or exotic parts

Cool Eric..but why would a cut out be better than a loudmouth?

Maybe I'll go sleeved block and race heads next time.....and give up city drivin...
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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Wow, big testament to Rapids LS1 stage 2 heads. Nice setup!


Mike~ These heads any different from the typcal stage 2s you use in 346 applications?
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by niphilli
Wow, big testament to Rapids LS1 stage 2 heads. Nice setup!


Mike~ These heads any different from the typcal stage 2s you use in 346 applications?
No, actually these are designed for stock cubes. Sam opted to give them a shot as I had them on the shelf when he needed a set. I think he is a happy camper. Our heads are known to make lots of torque.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Very nice setup.. Thats a nice sized cam.. How does it idle? What rpm?
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Very nice setup.. Thats a nice sized cam.. How does it idle? What rpm?
This is a Rapid custom specified cam that I originally intended for a 422 CI motor but has worked well in smaller displacement motors. It lopes real hard but if tuned right, runs real well on the street. It will idle as low as 950 rpm in a 382 but I opted for 1000 to smooth things out a little. At 950 it sounds like a pro-mod car
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey
This is a Rapid custom specified cam that I originally intended for a 422 CI motor but has worked well in smaller displacement motors. It lopes real hard but if tuned right, runs real well on the street. It will idle as low as 950 rpm in a 382 but I opted for 1000 to smooth things out a little. At 950 it sounds like a pro-mod car
Awesome.. Congrats again on the setup!!!
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Sam, your car sounded great and ran great today. It was nice to meet you finally! And your welcome for the help..LOL Thank goodness all my fingers are still there..LOL
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Today was a good day...took off work...dynoed some great numbers..met some cool people....and had a beautiful girl wrenching on my car...does it get any better?... If your ever in Harrisburg give me a holler Susan..I.O.U. lol. Im sure I'll see you kicking *** at the track.

Big thanks to my buddy Mark..PAZ06..for all his help and couldnt have done it without him...now he is off building the baddest tow vehicle around...496 stroker Suburban..cant wait to dyno that..

Cam sounds wicked...need to lower the idle mikey so it lopes real hard......bummmpppittyy bummmpp
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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well thank you Sam!! I'll keep that in mind. See you at the track I hope!
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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honestly with that size cam and a 90mm lsx, your numbers seem a little low.... assuming you have ASP's also. I would think closer to 500rwhp and 460+ rwtq would be closer. what kind of dyno was it?
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honestly with that size cam and a 90mm lsx, your numbers seem a little low.... assuming you have ASP's also. I would think closer to 500rwhp and 460+ rwtq would be closer. what kind of dyno was it?
Notice the cam peak at 6350. We could have made 10-15 more hp and more torque if the cam was retarded. But it would have moved the peak too high. This is what some folks are doing to post up high dyno numbers. We opted to make the package useable instead. You don't want to spin a stroker motor too high so we put the cam in straight up to keep the peak down. This car will run very well at the track. Heck, my motor hp peaks at 6400 and runs 9.70's all day.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SAM98WS6
First of all they was me..built it with the help of a buddy. I was hoping for a little higher compression ratio but I think the valve reliefs and extra stroke are about a wash. I ran it on 92 octane without a hint of detonation. I did not want a high lift cfm LS6 head since it is 99% daily driver and 1% track and an extra $1000 without core. Im sure with small cc LS6/4.8L heads and all the other tricks it would have been well over 500rwhp..the big headers are hurting the bottom end too. Maybe Im wrong..but this is how I drive it everyday..no dyno tricks..or exotic parts

Cool Eric..but why would a cut out be better than a loudmouth?

Maybe I'll go sleeved block and race heads next time.....and give up city drivin...
My car is probably just a streetable as yours, I run 93 gas at 10.8-11.0:1 CR, drive it on the street (but it is not my daily driver anymore), and drove it three hours each way (about an hour through stop and go traffic) yesterday to have an roll-cage put in at ECS. The parts that make it less streetable, and you'll probably agree, are the ram clutch, rear w/4.11s whining away, and torque arm which makes shifts less smooth and low speed maneuvering more of a pain in the a**.

I would definately get pulled over with a loudmouth...how are you getting away with that?? That must be loud as h*ll and drone like mad on the highway.

Anyhow, American Iron Shootout 3 is at cecil next saturday, see if you can go!
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Nice thing about Sam's package, he put it together himself (an ammature) and it was perfect. No JPR jerk around.
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