Desktop Dyno/Drag
Thank you very much... and for mr. JRP, i agree with you that it isnt as accurate as the other programs, but it should give a decent idea of what a new motor should do... Especially if you dont have all those other files to work with.
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Originally Posted by Forced370GTO
370ci iron 4.030 bore x 3.622 stroke
patriot stage 2 heads 300cfm intake 230cfm exhaust
230/236 .603 lift 115LSA
3 in dual exhaust, no cats and LT headers.
stock intake and t-body
d1sc intercooled procharger at 16psi
9.66 c/r, 3.91 gears in the rear
04 gto @ 3700lbs 6speed
patriot stage 2 heads 300cfm intake 230cfm exhaust
230/236 .603 lift 115LSA
3 in dual exhaust, no cats and LT headers.
stock intake and t-body
d1sc intercooled procharger at 16psi
9.66 c/r, 3.91 gears in the rear
04 gto @ 3700lbs 6speed
597 tq @5000 RPM
9.72@137.5 mph. on drag radials.
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Originally Posted by dame
iron block 408 (4.030 bore x 4.000 stroke) 11.6:1 comp.
234/238 113 lsa .580/.575
ETP Ti valve 240's 2.10/1.60's (11 degree)
QTP 1 7/8's w/hvmc (no cats)
TEA ported LSX 90
NW 90 TB
Mezierre EWP
FACTORY Pulley
FACTORY Muffler
Moser 9" (3.70's)
cartek clutch
steel driveshaft
raceweight 3800
NX MAF KIT (200 shot)
28" ET Drags
Valve Lift Intake Exhaust Valve Lift
.100" 73 57 .100"
.200" 152 114 .200"
.300" 210 164 .300"
.400" 266 204 .400"
.500" 312 224 .500"
.550" 327 228 .550"
234/238 113 lsa .580/.575
ETP Ti valve 240's 2.10/1.60's (11 degree)
QTP 1 7/8's w/hvmc (no cats)
TEA ported LSX 90
NW 90 TB
Mezierre EWP
FACTORY Pulley
FACTORY Muffler
Moser 9" (3.70's)
cartek clutch
steel driveshaft
raceweight 3800
NX MAF KIT (200 shot)
28" ET Drags
Valve Lift Intake Exhaust Valve Lift
.100" 73 57 .100"
.200" 152 114 .200"
.300" 210 164 .300"
.400" 266 204 .400"
.500" 312 224 .500"
.550" 327 228 .550"
423 tq @ 5000 RPM w/o/N20
666 hp @ 6500 RPM w/N20
777 tq @ 2000 RPM w/N20
11.389 @ 120.8 w/o/N20
9.648 @ 137.3 MPH w/N20
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Originally Posted by RaNsOm
stock bore (3.90), stock stroke (3.662)
230/236 @ .050" .595/.598 lift with stock 1.7 rockers 112lsa
LS6 intake
stock compression ratio
stock heads (241)
Jethot headers (not sure what primary size is, 1 5/8 I think?), 3" ypipe
230/236 @ .050" .595/.598 lift with stock 1.7 rockers 112lsa
LS6 intake
stock compression ratio
stock heads (241)
Jethot headers (not sure what primary size is, 1 5/8 I think?), 3" ypipe
379 tq @ 5000 RPM
11.824 @116.6 MPH with a stick
11.885 @ 111.8 MPH with auto w/5000 Stall
id say by these results and the results in your sig that this is pretty accurate.
Originally Posted by bww3588
387 hp @ 6000 RPM
379 tq @ 5000 RPM
11.824 @116.6 MPH with a stick
11.885 @ 111.8 MPH with auto w/5000 Stall
id say by these results and the results in your sig that this is pretty accurate.
379 tq @ 5000 RPM
11.824 @116.6 MPH with a stick
11.885 @ 111.8 MPH with auto w/5000 Stall
id say by these results and the results in your sig that this is pretty accurate.
DD, dynosim and the other 30-50 buck programs are fun to dick around with, however as state there accuracy leaves much to be desired.
Dame should be well within the 500rwhp mark with his setup. did DD factor in the 11* heads vs the 15* stock, the high velocity merge collectors and primary length, ported intake. didnt think so. all of those have proven dyno and track gains in the real world over there "standard" counter parts. use DD to visual power curves when changing different centerlines on cams, came timing, compression, ect.
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no they didnt, but whos gonna bitch for 50 bucks? if i want 100 percent accurate results im not gonna spend hundreds of dollars on another computer program. ill take the car to the dyno or the track. the purpose of a computer dyno sim is to get ballpark figures. a chassis dyno or engine dyno is for 100 percent accurate results. its quite obvious you dont like dyno sim/drag sim but obviously no one cares including me. so take your bitching elsewhere.
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thankyou for taking the time to run that for me. if you dont mind, what would my setup make at 10 and 12 psi?
Originally Posted by Forced370GTO
370ci iron 4.030 bore x 3.622 stroke
patriot stage 2 heads 300cfm intake 230cfm exhaust
230/236 .603 lift 115LSA
3 in dual exhaust, no cats and LT headers.
stock intake and t-body
d1sc intercooled procharger at 16psi
9.66 c/r, 3.91 gears in the rear
04 gto @ 3700lbs 6speed
Originally Posted by Forced370GTO
370ci iron 4.030 bore x 3.622 stroke
patriot stage 2 heads 300cfm intake 230cfm exhaust
230/236 .603 lift 115LSA
3 in dual exhaust, no cats and LT headers.
stock intake and t-body
d1sc intercooled procharger at 16psi
9.66 c/r, 3.91 gears in the rear
04 gto @ 3700lbs 6speed
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Originally Posted by Forced370GTO
thankyou for taking the time to run that for me. if you dont mind, what would my setup make at 10 and 12 psi?
Originally Posted by Forced370GTO
370ci iron 4.030 bore x 3.622 stroke
patriot stage 2 heads 300cfm intake 230cfm exhaust
230/236 .603 lift 115LSA
3 in dual exhaust, no cats and LT headers.
stock intake and t-body
d1sc intercooled procharger at 16psi
9.66 c/r, 3.91 gears in the rear
04 gto @ 3700lbs 6speed
Originally Posted by Forced370GTO
370ci iron 4.030 bore x 3.622 stroke
patriot stage 2 heads 300cfm intake 230cfm exhaust
230/236 .603 lift 115LSA
3 in dual exhaust, no cats and LT headers.
stock intake and t-body
d1sc intercooled procharger at 16psi
9.66 c/r, 3.91 gears in the rear
04 gto @ 3700lbs 6speed
676 hp @ 7500 RPM
595 tq @ 5000 RPM
9.743 @ 137.3 MPH
12 PSI:
677 hp @ 7500 RPM
596 tq @ 5000 RPM
9.736 @ 137.4 MPH
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alright guys due to some people (jrp) bitching that this software that i have is shitty for real world performance, take the results with a grain of salt. they are ball park not 100 percent. i appologize for not having a chassis dyno and engine dyno stashed away in my bathroom and closets of my house or 300 dollar 2 million megabyte software programs.
Last edited by bww3588; Dec 25, 2005 at 08:34 PM.
Originally Posted by bww3588
463 hp @ 6500 RPM w/o/N20
423 tq @ 5000 RPM w/o/N20
666 hp @ 6500 RPM w/N20
777 tq @ 2000 RPM w/N20
11.389 @ 120.8 w/o/N20
9.648 @ 137.3 MPH w/N20
423 tq @ 5000 RPM w/o/N20
666 hp @ 6500 RPM w/N20
777 tq @ 2000 RPM w/N20
11.389 @ 120.8 w/o/N20
9.648 @ 137.3 MPH w/N20
Thank you for your time.......I was a little curious as to see what that program spit out... but I can assure you if my car dynos 1 rwhp under 500 there's gonna be hell to pay. LOL
I mean considering there are stock cubed h/c cars that do 465 with smaller cams..... I'd like to think my goals aren't to far fetched
Thanks again
Damian
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Originally Posted by dame
bww3588:
Thank you for your time.......I was a little curious as to see what that program spit out... but I can assure you if my car dynos 1 rwhp under 500 there's gonna be hell to pay. LOL
I mean considering there are stock cubed h/c cars that do 465 with smaller cams..... I'd like to think my goals aren't to far fetched
Thanks again
Damian
Thank you for your time.......I was a little curious as to see what that program spit out... but I can assure you if my car dynos 1 rwhp under 500 there's gonna be hell to pay. LOL
I mean considering there are stock cubed h/c cars that do 465 with smaller cams..... I'd like to think my goals aren't to far fetched
Thanks again
Damian
ohh good luck at the dyno.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
679 hp at 7500 RPM
597 tq @5000 RPM
9.72@137.5 mph. on drag radials.
597 tq @5000 RPM
9.72@137.5 mph. on drag radials.
Originally Posted by bww3588
10 PSI:
676 hp @ 7500 RPM
595 tq @ 5000 RPM
9.743 @ 137.3 MPH
12 PSI:
677 hp @ 7500 RPM
596 tq @ 5000 RPM
9.736 @ 137.4 MPH
676 hp @ 7500 RPM
595 tq @ 5000 RPM
9.743 @ 137.3 MPH
12 PSI:
677 hp @ 7500 RPM
596 tq @ 5000 RPM
9.736 @ 137.4 MPH
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
There's where you program is terribly flawed. There's only a 3 hp difference between 16 psi and 10 psi.
Originally Posted by BlueSix
There's where you program is terribly flawed. There's only a 3 hp difference between 16 psi and 10 psi.
bww3588 - i dont dislike the program; i havee DD2k, Dynosim, and engine analyser. the programs are nice for comparing power curves within a given application by changing a variable or two. however as a whole the accuracy for the stated hp numbers are largely a shot in the dark. genIII stuff is especially inaccurate.
the problem with DD is assuming the programers are using the correct dimensions and specs. Download Engine analyser (search google, should be able to find the free demo) and you'll see that its worlds ahead of DD. however you'll need alot more info to input. and with anything; garbage in equals garbage out.
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Originally Posted by jrp
not to mention he doesnt have the cfm; head, intake, and TB for a 7500 rpm hp peak.
bww3588 - i dont dislike the program; i havee DD2k, Dynosim, and engine analyser. the programs are nice for comparing power curves within a given application by changing a variable or two. however as a whole the accuracy for the stated hp numbers are largely a shot in the dark. genIII stuff is especially inaccurate.
the problem with DD is assuming the programers are using the correct dimensions and specs. Download Engine analyser (search google, should be able to find the free demo) and you'll see that its worlds ahead of DD. however you'll need alot more info to input. and with anything; garbage in equals garbage out.
bww3588 - i dont dislike the program; i havee DD2k, Dynosim, and engine analyser. the programs are nice for comparing power curves within a given application by changing a variable or two. however as a whole the accuracy for the stated hp numbers are largely a shot in the dark. genIII stuff is especially inaccurate.
the problem with DD is assuming the programers are using the correct dimensions and specs. Download Engine analyser (search google, should be able to find the free demo) and you'll see that its worlds ahead of DD. however you'll need alot more info to input. and with anything; garbage in equals garbage out.
Originally Posted by bww3588
387 hp @ 6000 RPM
379 tq @ 5000 RPM
11.824 @116.6 MPH with a stick
11.885 @ 111.8 MPH with auto w/5000 Stall
id say by these results and the results in your sig that this is pretty accurate.
379 tq @ 5000 RPM
11.824 @116.6 MPH with a stick
11.885 @ 111.8 MPH with auto w/5000 Stall
id say by these results and the results in your sig that this is pretty accurate.
4mph=40hp, thats a lot. Id say Im pushin at least 400 to the wheels, thats at least 460bhp.Gear ratio's dont matter to me because I was trapping 119 even with the 3.42's before my 4.33's
