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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Default Any 4" ETP LS7 Results?

cant wait too see what these heads and ls7 intake can do on a 408.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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I will have some results this week. We are going to dyno all week and try to come up with a killer "LS7" substitute. I hope we find what were looking for.

Were also going to try and get our proto 4 barrel manifold in there as well.

I will post results as soon as I get them.

starting with a 4 inch stroke, Diamond/ETP pistons, 11.3 to 1 comp, 238 246, .650 lift 114lsa. stock ls7 rocker arms, hoping to get the new Yella Terra/ETP rockers this week. LS7 factory manifold wtih ETP-fuel rail and throttle linkage kit. Nick Williams 90mm, Callies crank, Compstar 6.200,Total Seal Rings,Comp lifters and a whole lot of other stuff.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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sounds interesting
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cary et performance
I will have some results this week. We are going to dyno all week and try to come up with a killer "LS7" substitute. I hope we find what were looking for.

Were also going to try and get our proto 4 barrel manifold in there as well.

I will post results as soon as I get them.

starting with a 4 inch stroke, Diamond/ETP pistons, 11.3 to 1 comp, 238 246, .650 lift 114lsa. stock ls7 rocker arms, hoping to get the new Yella Terra/ETP rockers this week. LS7 factory manifold wtih ETP-fuel rail and throttle linkage kit. Nick Williams 90mm, Callies crank, Compstar 6.200,Total Seal Rings,Comp lifters and a whole lot of other stuff.
Cary that's a really wide lobe sep for a carb manifold. Don't you think you would benefit from a tighter lobe sep with shorter runners?

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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I defintely wanna see these results
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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so this is what you are up to Cary! haha. send me my heads! I will give you some nasty 422 results, hehe. I will be ordering another set of 4" LS7s from you guys real soon.
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I will post a full sheet as soon as I get a chance, I figured I would share preliminary results.

26 degrees of timing and 12.7:1 AFR. Still need to do some tuning, but we ran this on a FAST XFI system and we'll spend more time on it when it gets in the car with a MAF and stock computer.

peak hp 630 @6700 627@7000
peak torque 565 @ 5100
average hp from 4000-7000 550
average tq from 4000-7000 527 tq@4000- 509 @6700 501

stock rockers, comp R lifters, PSI 1225 valve springs, steel valves 134 grams on the intake, .010 preload. NO valve float or any signs of instability at all. We ran it all the way to 7400 rpm.


This is not a dyno queen, but from all the results we have independantly gathered, we are very happy with the results. It idles real nice at 850rpm. It is a very streetable combo.
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Originally Posted by cary et performance
I will post a full sheet as soon as I get a chance, I figured I would share preliminary results.

26 degrees of timing and 12.7:1 AFR. Still need to do some tuning, but we ran this on a FAST XFI system and we'll spend more time on it when it gets in the car with a MAF and stock computer.

peak hp 630 @6700 627@7000
peak torque 565 @ 5100
average hp from 4000-7000 550
average tq from 4000-7000 527 tq@4000- 509 @6700 501

stock rockers, comp R lifters, PSI 1225 valve springs, steel valves 134 grams on the intake, .010 preload. NO valve float or any signs of instability at all. We ran it all the way to 7400 rpm.


This is not a dyno queen, but from all the results we have independantly gathered, we are very happy with the results. It idles real nice at 850rpm. It is a very streetable combo.
cary did you read post #4 of this thread? I think that cam is horribly mismatched to the short runners of the carb style intake. I would look at something in the 105-107 lsa range.

Nate
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Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
cary did you read post #4 of this thread? I think that cam is horribly mismatched to the short runners of the carb style intake. I would look at something in the 105-107 lsa range.

Nate
I agree with Nate. While your preliminary number are encouraging, you would most likely see quite a bit more average power with a narrower LSA cam. Several people on this board have swapped cams on the GMPP and Victor single plane manifold setups. The 114LSA cams were sub-par, the 110LSA cams were better and the 105-106LSA cams worked the best. No surprise as this is where the carburetors seem to make best power too.
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Maybe you should ask why they did what they did instead telling them they are wrong.

At least you won't come off so foolish.
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Originally Posted by sscam68
Maybe you should ask why they did what they did instead telling them they are wrong.

At least you won't come off so foolish.
I never said they were wrong, just offering a suggestion to increase performance. The only reason that would dictate a 114 lsa cam would be if they were going to spray the pants off that thing. Anything under a 200 shot and i'd still come down to 110-111 lsa. Plus it will up that DCR.


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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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Nate,

This was not run with a four barrell manifold. It was a factory LS7 manifold. As I said on my first post, we were going to try and run a 4v intake manifold, but we didn't.
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Originally Posted by cary et performance
Nate,

This was not run with a four barrell manifold. It was a factory LS7 manifold. As I said on my first post, we were going to try and run a 4v intake manifold, but we didn't.
nate you just got owned.
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No, didn't mean it come across like that. Just making a correction. Its not hard to overlook things.

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hehe, just messing.
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Great results Cary you want to sponsor my car with a set of cylinder heads next year? hahahaha didn't think so...
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Is this on an engine dyno or chassis dyno?

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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RyneZ06
nate you just got owned.
Cary I still think you should tighten up that lsa to 110-111 or so. I think power would pick up nicely.

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Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
Cary I still think you should tighten up that lsa to 110-111 or so. I think power would pick up nicely.

Nate
Nate,

This is an every day driver. Idle quality and drivability is a concern. Yes, it may pick up a little down in the low and mid, but we already hit 570 ft. lbs messing around with the tune. I have run a lot of different camshafts with all of our cylinder heads, they do not like that much overlap. I see it a lot.


Justin,

This was on a DTS Engine dyno. Chassis dynos are good for drivability and tweeking, but there are way too many variables for A/B testing. One of the biggest reasons I did this project was to prove out valve train and manifold issues that seem to come up. We didn't have any.
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Anyone else have any experience with the ET LS7 4" bore heads and a stock LS7 intake?
These heads look very promising.
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