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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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I have a 408 with stage 3 72cc patriot heads, stock ls2 90mm intake, and a texas giant cam. We did the math on the compression ratio and it was 10.4 to 1. The car made 450hp/440tq at the wheels, to me that seems low. I think I left alot of power on the table not going with a higher compression ratio. But I think theres alot more power to be had out of this thing. Should I raise the compression ratio with a set of 64cc heads, or is it worth my time. Any suggestions???
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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need to know the cam specs.
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248/254 @ .050 dur. 622/612 lift 114 lobe sep
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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What exhaust?
LS2 intake = bad result's from what I've seen.

And yes,your DCR is wayyyyy too low.The comp. should be 11-1 at minimum.
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Yeah... I might be swaping to a 62-64cc head, and a fast 90 intake pretty soon. I think between the heads and intake I could pull another 30-40 rwhp out of it. Oh....and the exhaust is a magnaflow. How nitrous friendly would 11.5 to 1 be on 93 octane?? I might have to run a stand alone with some 104 in it. How are the new DART heads??? Do they work well with big cube motors??
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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my old FMS 408 dynoed 532/501 (and wasnt even finished tuning..still running 12:1 a/f) with 246/250 630'ish 112+3. thru a M6 w/12bolt w/4.10s. and using my LS2 intake and fast 90mm.

12:1 CR and 93 octane though....
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Would be interesting to see your cranking compression? i'm guessing it may only be 120-130psi.

Do you have a graph of dyno runs? Interested where it peaking?

64cc with 11.41DCR sounds like the ticket vs. 72cc and 10.4DCR
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I ran 12.5 to 1 on my 427 with 93 octane. It made 500 rwhp through a automatic. Hows your valvetrain?
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If his SCR is only 10.4:1 and using a texas giant cam on 114 (assuming it's 114 stright up) would really be low dynamic compression. He could either switch to a custom cam with a lower ICL and LSA, maybe some advance to increase the DCR or mill the heads to bump up the SCR. I would think you would want to be in the 12.0:1 range with that cam if it's 114 stright up.
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yup,dcr is way low for power. how about a set of tfs or afr 225 runner heads with around a 59cc or 60 cc chamber ? your dcr will still be fairly low but should easily run on 93 and probably 91 octane.
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