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Old 08-28-2007, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 1MEANGTO
So why don't I like reverse splits I'd say the truth is in the track times. I have slips to back this all up. And I have dyno sheets. My car even with the ms3 never had a loss of power or torque when the two graphs we're on top of each other At any RPM
My car ran times in sig with TR230/224 cam, 3500+lbs. Guess it depends on what your definition of "sucks" is.

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.MartyStone
Reverse splits are junk...and the 98 head rumor isn't that true. I went 418/395 cam only with great under the curve power with "junk" 98 heads. If you look at the setup as a whole then you can get good results. Dump the junky *** reverse split cam.

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Dude, you are seriously misinformed. See sig for numbers from a TR230 cam and BONE STOCK heads with "crappy" MAC headers.
Old 08-28-2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane

Luke, what is the exhaust setup on your car??
Long tubes, no cats, y pipe, 3inch exhaust into a flowmaster 40 series.
Old 08-28-2007, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
1meanGTO -It's obvious the tune on the reverse split was garbage.Thats why the car ran so bad at the track. You wouldn't gain that much on that swap if the tunes were right.

Now,all cars are different.I really hate 98's and never seen one hit over 390rwhp Cam only on our dyno -never!! This is even with the big,bad *** cams.So thats just us.
It's obvious the heads are no good.The home porting probly killed them.
I will agree the tune was really bad but they sell the hell out of that cam.Most cars I see with that same cam run very close to the same numbers. Maybe it's just the cam. As you can all tell I'm a spray junkie and most my freinds are alsoSo no the reverse split is not for me.


I have offered luke a set of 241's but he says he's gonna wait now until he can afford a new set of 5.3 heads from tsp and a standard split cam maybe a ms3. I just finished a car today with a 228r and tsp 5.3 stage 2.5's luke seemed pretty impressed as he gave me a hand with the car.

And also slowhawk there are no good tuners around here thats why I started tuning myself from what I've learned just from my own cars. I do alright business so far I'm looking forward to expanding in the future. But as with everything everyday you learn a little more.
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I'm only 10rwhp behind you and 6rwtq more than you.

I only have just boltons (not even all of them). I'd look into other issues not just the heads. There not as bad as people think.

Good luck!
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OH... I see that you said they have been home ported. Like everyone else said, it could have done more harm than good.
Old 08-29-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1MEANGTO
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I have offered luke a set of 241's but he says he's gonna wait now until he can afford a new set of 5.3 heads from tsp and a standard split cam maybe a ms3.
For sure! I really want to dyno the car with the TSP 5.3L and the TR230. I want to see the difference in hp. Then I will go with a standard split like Mike said.
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I've learned you really can't compare dyno numbers....our mustang dyno at school is the lowest reading dyno i've ever seen. On a 402 Z28 our dyno read 380 LOL, on someone elses it put down 460, on a ported blower 03 cobra ours = 390, someone elses was 480rwhp or something, in a friends H/C/I 5.0, our dyno read 237, somewhere else was like 290...
Just find someone with a similar set-up and race. I don't give a **** what my car puts down, as long as i'm ahead of cars with similar set-ups.
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I can compare a different ste up in heads on the same dyno though.
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Originally Posted by 2 SSlow
I've learned you really can't compare dyno numbers....our mustang dyno at school is the lowest reading dyno i've ever seen. On a 402 Z28 our dyno read 380 LOL, on someone elses it put down 460, on a ported blower 03 cobra ours = 390, someone elses was 480rwhp or something, in a friends H/C/I 5.0, our dyno read 237, somewhere else was like 290...
Just find someone with a similar set-up and race. I don't give a **** what my car puts down, as long as i'm ahead of cars with similar set-ups.
I agree completly!! His car is slow by no means dynos don't mean ****.
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Originally Posted by gillbot
Dude, you are seriously misinformed. See sig for numbers from a TR230 cam and BONE STOCK heads with "crappy" MAC headers.
My car ran a lot harder than that with stock heads and junk flowtech headers when I was cam only...try again.

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i love this cam. It works just fine with my nitrous, and i couldnt be happier with the Low-mid range torque. plus the sound is awesome
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What kind of numbers did you put down? I am goin to leave this cam in when I put on my PRC 5.3s just to see the power increase.
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Originally Posted by Mr.MartyStone


My car ran a lot harder than that with stock heads and junk flowtech headers when I was cam only...try again.

Marty
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You badmouth a cam that repeatedly makes in the range of 400RWHP yet you can do better without it? Hardly.
Old 09-10-2007, 08:32 AM
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my numbers before a decent tune were 400/382 about. I never dynoed on the N20, but id definitely guess over 500 now that i have a tune and a 100 shot. she pulls like a madman after 3k
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I agree with Mr.MartyStone, the TR230 is a piece of crap. I only ran a best et of 11.2 and best mph of 123.5 on stock 241 heads @3500lbs with that cam. I hated it so much I put it in my stock LS6 motor to try for 10s. Also, f*3k a dyno, I made 413rwhp running those times. Dynos are great for tuning and gauging your own advancement, but racing dyno numbers is futile. Take it to the track.
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I am hopping to get it to the track before the season is over.




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