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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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well the day is rapidly approaching that the car will be back on the road
but i was curious what kind of numbers it would produce

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6.0 iron block 4.065 Bore
L92 heads with touched up exhaust ports
246/253 .620 ish lift 112 LSA
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l76 intake manifold (waiting for fast to come out with one)

wondering what to expect when i get it dynoed in a couple of months
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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A4 or 6sp? I got 520rwhp and 500trq with my 408 A4 set-up, ET 245 heads and fast 90 set-up! I would think you should be close to me. My cam is 250 255 640 640 113 though!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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6sp i know that the l76 is gonna hold be back up high but i got the intake for 175 and it was better than a custom sheetmetal that i would have to wait for ever on

and i know fast is working on a ls3 intake so i figured i could cut my losses on that one.

the builder was saying in should make 560 but i wanted to hear from someother people (course that was with the anticipation of the sheetmetal intake aswell)

im anxious i will actually be done with it mid nov. got all the parts except a throttle body

i just got to get my lazy *** in the shop and get to work
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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I don't think you will do 560, but you might nip 520 or so..
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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blackbyrd, i have the basic same setup.
414
4.060
meaux racing cleanup just the bowls on the L92's
waiting on my futral cam.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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blackbyrd, who cut the cam?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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comp did the cam for me
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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my 416 did 505 whp
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1bigcam what's the car weigh with driver? what size cam etc?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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My 414 makes 550rwhp 510 rwtq. 6.0 iron with 4.060 bore fast 90/90 tea/tfs 235 heads thru a 6spd cam is a 244/248 I have 475rwtq at 3000rpms
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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car should weight 3500 with me in it. cam was a 248-262 637 647 on a 112 but iam changing hat and hoping to pick some lost power up.
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With the right cam I think it will make close to 520. My 413 with TSP ported L92's and L76 intake made just under 500 rwhp through a T56. I know the intake is holding us L76 guys back, but if you notice in the genIV internals forum. TSP just made over 550rwhp with there ported heads and stock L76 intake. So it makes me wonder if the difference between my cam and theres could make that big of a difference. BTW my cam is a Livernois stage 3 L92 specific cam. The specs are 242/ 248 .610/.618 114 LSA.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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k now those are the kinda numbers i was looking for
how to the tfs 235's compare to the l92's flow wise???
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbyrd
k now those are the kinda numbers i was looking for
how to the tfs 235's compare to the l92's flow wise???
the tfs heads have an awesome exhaust port. i can't remenber the flow numbers but on the intake side they are pretty close if i remember right. with your cam and a ported 90/90 with the tfs 235s i would think you would be in the 545-555 rw range with the right scr/dcr.
if i forget to talk to you later on about it let me know when you go get it dynoed,i would like to take my bomb back to see what it puts down on the skeeter spray,haha !
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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yeah im gonna call them and make the trip and ill tell them you are gonna come with me,
and im very excited about getting the fast for the l92 heads when it comes out im thinking that may help me out but we will see i may find out i dont need it (im hoping anway) and for the record that could be one hell of a ride up to bowling green!!!

but i got my pcm and the harness should be here in 2 weeks then im gonna be needing your help to get her ready to fire up.

and did i pass you on the way to work this morning??? in old whitey
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbyrd
yeah im gonna call them and make the trip and ill tell them you are gonna come with me,
and im very excited about getting the fast for the l92 heads when it comes out im thinking that may help me out but we will see i may find out i dont need it (im hoping anway) and for the record that could be one hell of a ride up to bowling green!!!

but i got my pcm and the harness should be here in 2 weeks then im gonna be needing your help to get her ready to fire up.

and did i pass you on the way to work this morning??? in old whitey
probably so ,i can't remember seeing you but i get to work alittle before 7 so if you were out before then you prolly met me.the guy at hph i think works during the week so we will probably have to head up on a saturday or sunday (it will probably take alittle while to get your car dialed in) . going through celina will probably be the quickest way for us but taking off from cookeville heading towards cashville and hitting 65 may be as close but i like the celina way because it is backroads instead of interstate.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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which would be great for testing her out he he he
im so close to getting this thing done i have waited for to long for this but soon
we will be up and the cookevillians will reign mu hahahahahahaha
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Like I said TFS 235cc head is my vote. They flow 345 at 600 but flow 290's at 400 lift.I have gone thru 3 set of heads($6000) later I finally got my goal which was 550rwhp n/a with the tfs's
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Figure 480-500whp for now.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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With my 408 A4 with Nitrous stall and tune I made 520rwhp 500trq. Here is the flow numbers with my ET 245 heads worked on by Greg Good alittle!

These are the numbers from my bench. 28", 4.030" bore, and no pipe on the exhaust port.


Intake Exhaust
.200" 148 117
.300" 228 160
.400" 301 196
.500" 339 247
.600" 354 263
.650" 354 269
.700" 355 272

Mid flow numbers are freaking awsome! Greg Good is the shitz!! Just some food for thought!


Gtodoug how is the car running? I remember your posts when you first built your set-up.
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