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Mike@HSW Dec 16, 2007 08:08 PM

LT's ORY, & cat-back results
 
We just picked up a new shop car last month, 2002 Z28 M6. so far we have added Kooks 1 7/8's long tube headers, Kooks ORY and magnaflow catback. The car already had a lid, ported stock thottle body, granitelli MAF, and other free mods. Temperature was about 30 degrees outside, maybe 10-15 degrees warmer around the car. Original dyno number of 306 was on a poor tune (A/F was all over the place) and a poor exhaust system.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7...nreportkg3.jpg



Not bad numbers so far. Over the next few months we are going to be playing with different cam/head/nitrous combos. first will be three different cams. then the same cams with patriot heads, then will be the same cams with TFS 215cc heads. After that will come various levels of nitrous. We will keep everyone updated on what numbers come out. everyting for now will be tested with the stock ported TB and ls6 intake. final setup will include NW 90mm, intake elbow and a port matched edelbrock vic jr.

Turbo LS1 SS Dec 16, 2007 08:12 PM

that's quite a bit of power out of just exhaust

RedDemonLsX Dec 16, 2007 08:16 PM

Nice numbers..Good job!!

Mike@HSW Dec 16, 2007 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo LS1 SS (Post 8316763)
that's quite a bit of power out of just exhaust

I disagree, i think thats pretty much inline with every other car i have seen in this section which have similar setups.

BayAreaSS Dec 16, 2007 10:20 PM

Those are high #'s to me as well. Congrats!

Mike@HSW Dec 17, 2007 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by BayAreaSS (Post 8317645)
Those are high #'s to me as well. Congrats!

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/830663-dyno-results.html

similiar setup, untuned (mine was tuned) and it put down more power.

PewterScreaminMach Dec 17, 2007 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Mike@HSW (Post 8316933)
I disagree, i think thats pretty much inline with every other car i have seen in this section which have similar setups.

I agree with the previous responses. While you can show examples of similar setups and results, almost 50rwhp from just exhaust is an awesome gain, and definitely not the norm. Keep in mind, he said "awesome gain from just exhaust", not "awesome gain for that particular setup". I'm sure it has something to do with the great exhaust components you went with, and I can't wait to see how it does with some more bolt-ons and a few different cams.

If most cars gained 50rwhp from just an exhaust/headers, then most full bolt-on cars would be putting down in the 360-370 range, and that's definitely not the norm. The norm seems to be 340s and 350s, with a handful pushing 360+, and a handful putting out lower numbers.

ScreaminRedZ Dec 17, 2007 08:22 AM

Very impressive gains, and I agree that it's not the norm. Does the car even have a lid? Either way, awesome numbers!

I'll be especially interested in the gains between the cam only setups and the cam/patriot heads combos. Hopefully the heads do well. I haven't been impressed with the numbers I've see so far with them.

Mike@HSW Dec 17, 2007 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ (Post 8319155)
Very impressive gains, and I agree that it's not the norm. Does the car even have a lid? Either way, awesome numbers!

I'll be especially interested in the gains between the cam only setups and the cam/patriot heads combos. Hopefully the heads do well. I haven't been impressed with the numbers I've see so far with them.

The car does have a lid and ported stock throttle body (sorry i didnt include that before). It basically has all the free mods as well. The car had a catback system on it before that wasnt put together very well, it also had a poor tune and the A/F was up around 16. So that exhaust plus the tune didnt surprise me to get those numbers. before the tune it was around 340, so 34 horsepower doesnt suprise me from this high quality exhaust system. if we simply bolted on this setup and gained 47 horsepower, i would be suspect as well, but i think a lot of it came with the tune.

PewterScreaminMach Dec 17, 2007 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Mike@HSW (Post 8319203)
The car does have a lid and ported stock throttle body (sorry i didnt include that before). It basically has all the free mods as well. The car had a catback system on it before that wasnt put together very well, it also had a poor tune and the A/F was up around 16. So that exhaust plus the tune didnt surprise me to get those numbers. before the tune it was around 340, so 34 horsepower doesnt suprise me from this high quality exhaust system. if we simply bolted on this setup and gained 47 horsepower, i would be suspect as well, but i think a lot of it came with the tune.

That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for clearing that up! And those are still some strong numbers. Can't wait to see the results, especially those Patriot/Cam numbers versus cam-only as previously stated by ScreaminRedZ.

ScreaminRedZ Dec 17, 2007 08:40 AM

I think it's just a strong running car. It seems to be about 10 rwhp higher than normal for the combo. Nothing wrong with that! We all know that not all cars are gonna put out identical numbers, and it's not way out there. Just a slightly strong running car. Awesome numbers! Keep us posted on any new mods/numbers! I'd be very interested in seeing how your plate system does because it's the strongest runner right now for what I'm gonna buy next :D

Mike@HSW Dec 17, 2007 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach (Post 8319138)
I agree with the previous responses. While you can show examples of similar setups and results, almost 50rwhp from just exhaust is an awesome gain, and definitely not the norm. Keep in mind, he said "awesome gain from just exhaust", not "awesome gain for that particular setup". I'm sure it has something to do with the great exhaust components you went with, and I can't wait to see how it does with some more bolt-ons and a few different cams.

If most cars gained 50rwhp from just an exhaust/headers, then most full bolt-on cars would be putting down in the 360-370 range, and that's definitely not the norm. The norm seems to be 340s and 350s, with a handful pushing 360+, and a handful putting out lower numbers.

I was refering more to the horsepower number and not the gain in horsepower. I think the max horsepower is inline with other cars with similiar setups. like i said, 353 from a lid, ported tb, exhaust and tune didnt surpise me.. All of that contributed to what i think is a pretty average number. As for the gain, that exhaust AND a tune didnt suprise me. Sorry if i didnt indicate that the car was tuned in my original post. and again, the car had a POOR tune and POOR exhaust system before, so the gain really was expected.

Mike@HSW Dec 17, 2007 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ (Post 8319236)
I think it's just a strong running car. It seems to be about 10 rwhp higher than normal for the combo. Nothing wrong with that! We all know that not all cars are gonna put out identical numbers, and it's not way out there. Just a slightly strong running car. Awesome numbers! Keep us posted on any new mods/numbers! I'd be very interested in seeing how your plate system does because it's the strongest runner right now for what I'm gonna buy next :D

We're gonna start with the cams this week and i will definitly keep you guys updated. the plate will be going on eventually and i think it will put down big numbers with the right cam and the TFS 215s.

Let me know if you have any questions about the plate, check out the nitrous section for the sale we have going on.

the final setup is going to have a plate for the first stage and direct port for a second along with a standalone system.

ScreaminRedZ Dec 17, 2007 09:11 AM

Looking forward to the results!

I'll probably be contacting you guys shortly after Christmas :devil:

STRIPSTAR Dec 17, 2007 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mike@HSW (Post 8319270)
We're gonna start with the cams this week and i will definitly keep you guys updated. the plate will be going on eventually and i think it will put down big numbers with the right cam and the TFS 215s.

Let me know if you have any questions about the plate, check out the nitrous section for the sale we have going on.

the final setup is going to have a plate for the first stage and direct port for a second along with a standalone system.

Good, work out the dry plate so I can glom info from you.

BayAreaSS Dec 17, 2007 02:52 PM

The numbers make sense now that you've told us more about the car. It put down strong numbers and i'll be waiting to see the results from the different setups.

Mike@HSW Dec 17, 2007 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by STRIPSTAR (Post 8320305)
Good, work out the dry plate so I can glom info from you.

I will be outfitting the setup with the dry plate and the interface, so we'll see what she puts down.

LS1 SPEED Dec 17, 2007 04:30 PM

good #'s , but not crazy as you have stated

I am sure with a cutout you would see at least 5 rwhp and be a closer comparison to the car you linked with true duals.

good luck with your R&D coming up

jhanner Dec 17, 2007 05:58 PM

im impressed is that a stick or automatic

Mike@HSW Dec 17, 2007 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by jhanner (Post 8322345)
im impressed is that a stick or automatic

T56 with a RAM 910 VDS system and stock ten bolt


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