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SD99TA214 Jun 6, 2008 01:46 AM

Ported Stock T/b's = Hype!!!!!
 
dynoed mycar tonight 99 t/a full exaust and lid. 2 pulls with stock T/B, identical hp and trq. changed to a professionaly ported T/B (withholding name) and made 2 more pulls. back to back identical numbers again but this time picked up a WHOPPING 9 hp and 5 trq!!! well worth my money:bang: sad thing is its got the bumpstop mod and half shaft mod! so im calling B/s! anyone with me???

1_bad_TA Jun 6, 2008 01:52 AM

if you picked up 9 hp and 5 trq how are they identical?

01ws666 Jun 6, 2008 01:55 AM

So you gained 9hp and 5lb feet @ the weels just from a p&p tb... Sounds like a nice gain to me:confused: Especially since I did mine myself which cost me all of $30 bucks.... So how much were you expecting???

01ws666 Jun 6, 2008 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by 1_bad_TA (Post 9504854)
if you picked up 9 hp and 5 trq how are they identical?

He meant the first two pulls with stock tb were identical and the second two pulls after swapping in the p&p tb were identical proving a gain...

1_bad_TA Jun 6, 2008 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by 01ws666 (Post 9504863)
He meant the first two pulls with stock tb were identical and the second two pulls after swapping in the p&p tb were identical proving a gain...

I see. I just need to read slower. Either way, I would be happy with it.

ls1408cp Jun 6, 2008 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by SD99TA214 (Post 9504846)
dynoed mycar tonight 99 t/a full exaust and lid. 2 pulls with stock T/B, identical hp and trq. changed to a professionaly ported T/B (withholding name) and made 2 more pulls. back to back identical numbers again but this time picked up a WHOPPING 9 hp and 5 trq!!! well worth my money:bang: sad thing is its got the bumpstop mod and half shaft mod! so im calling B/s! anyone with me???

if you got anything you should be happy.

SD99TA214 Jun 6, 2008 02:16 AM

well its still on there so im cool with the gaines but the hype about 15 and 20 horse power over stock i guess is what got me. lol

SD99TA214 Jun 6, 2008 02:19 AM

especialy considering the hype about the bumpstop mod, the half shaft mod and the coolant delete. all those including port work = 9 hp and 5 trq. so i dare to seperate them out and credit the mods with there givin gains! see my point?

Jantzer98SS Jun 6, 2008 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by SD99TA214 (Post 9504900)
especialy considering the hype about the bumpstop mod, the half shaft mod and the coolant delete. all those including port work = 9 hp and 5 trq. so i dare to seperate them out and credit the mods with there givin gains! see my point?

A throttle body isn't a dyno mod. But 9rwhp is nothing to shake a stick at. You will see gains on the dyno like you did but you'll see more gains at the track when air is moving.

I bet on .15 in et reduction atleast.

SpaZMaN Jun 6, 2008 02:49 AM

Thats actually a very nice gain from working on a stock TB....lol

SD99TA214 Jun 6, 2008 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by SpaZMaN (Post 9504936)
Thats actually a very nice gain from working on a stock TB....lol

oh i agree! but thats my point, excpected gain, from tweeking a stock t/b:D BUUUT what i started the thread about was the "HYPE" people give these mods WAY to much credit. and you know they do. lol

Redlinez Jun 6, 2008 05:33 AM

I never saw a 20 hp claim on a ported stock TB. I've seen someone gain as much as 14 though.

LustrousWS6 Jun 6, 2008 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by SD99TA214 (Post 9504895)
well its still on there so im cool with the gaines but the hype about 15 and 20 horse power over stock i guess is what got me. lol

Where the hell did you read 15-20 HP out of a P&P'd T/B??? My tuner was honest with me when he did mine - right at or just under 10 RWHP and that's exactly what it got me.

BlkBird2000 Jun 6, 2008 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by LustrousWS6 (Post 9505074)
Where the hell did you read 15-20 HP out of a P&P'd T/B??? My tuner was honest with me when he did mine - right at or just under 10 RWHP and that's exactly what it got me.

No shit. I'm with this guy^^^ You didn't get that information here! If you thought spending money on a p&p tb then don't even think about getting a UD pulley!

SladeX Jun 6, 2008 08:17 AM

You still running the LS1 intake? The LS1 may prove to be the restriction to any improvements before the intake.

01ws666 Jun 6, 2008 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by SD99TA214 (Post 9504895)
well its still on there so im cool with the gaines but the hype about 15 and 20 horse power over stock i guess is what got me. lol

BTW if you get 9 @ the weels it probably is somewhere between 15 - 20 hp gain @ the crank... Is one way to look @ it

Hennytime Jun 6, 2008 09:15 AM

10rwhp is as advertised, its whats been shown before and its what is showing now...

Bad Blue WS6 Jun 6, 2008 09:24 AM

the more you have in mods,,the more the gain...

7 to 10 on a stocker to slight stocker (some mods)
11 to 16-ish on a full bolt on car
15 to 19 on a heads cam car

So,,as you keep modding,,, your TB will keep on givin :chug:

be happy with your 9,,hope you didnt pay toooo much for your TB, depending on who's or what you bought,, which makes a 9 well worth it...think of this way,,a UD pulley gives you roughly 10,,for $250.00,,,,an electric water pump will give you roughly 10,,,for $400.00...

you came out on top

SD99TA214 Jun 6, 2008 12:36 PM

wow! very good points!!! i mean i know alot about cars, as a matter of fact before we changed it i said i figured 10 and my buddie who owns the dyno said maybe 8 so we were close, i just was a little curious as to why people made such a BIG deal about ported throttle bodies, but you know somthing.......about that ls1 intake:emb: LOL! didnt think of that, well its a good thing my ls6 intake will be in, in a few days, ill do two pulls, change it on spot and redyno with 2 more pulls. then we can add the gains and see how the ported t/b and ls6 intake combo fairs.:nod: i know its been done, but not on my car.:D

SD99TA214 Jun 6, 2008 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by BlkBird2000 (Post 9505099)
No shit. I'm with this guy^^^ You didn't get that information here! If you thought spending money on a p&p tb then don't even think about getting a UD pulley!

and no it wasnt the money, LOL we ALL know that you cant be worried about money if you plan on modding a f-bod!:chug:


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