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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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i have a guy at my work telling me that the dodge challenger/chargers are the fastest of dodge-ford-gm production cars...he says they will smoke vettes. He says the suntimes says so...lol please tell me how these compair...all stock for stock..
-charger/challenger vs. t/a
-charger/challenger vs. vette
-charger/challenger vs. 2010 camaro-mustang
-1998 eldorado...hahahaha....vs. t/a
-lambos vs. cammed t/a
-now add some rare sport cars that average ls1 f-bodys will eat up...
please he has me fired up...
also post up vids of high end sport cars gettin there asses handed to them...
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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oh yea assume the mopars are srt-8s...i just need ppl on my side im all alone
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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There is no help for a moron.... they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Not positive, but I thought that the new charger/challengers were a little on the fat side.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Well Charger SRT8 runs a low 13 sec 1/4 so its on par with a WS6/SS if not a tick faster. The SRT8 Challenger weights so much that its actually a 13.9 machine so it is a bit slower. Vette's are faster than all of them because a stock LS3 can run in the 12's.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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^^Your right. Ive heard they weigh over 4000lbs. They are slightly slower than an LS1 Fbody. A C5 would put a car or two on them. A C6 would rip them a new one.

I raced a Charger RT when my car was bone stock and it was pretty bad. And i have a Video of me racing the same car but I had a catback/lid, If you want to see it.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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hell yea post that sucker up
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Old May 12, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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motor trend should have a road test or write up that shows they're aprox quarter mile. noway is a heavier car going to blow away a camaro let alone a vette! cheers race him or meet him on dyno day
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Old May 12, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Popular mechanics most recent issue shows the 2010 Camaro beating the Challenger by a wide margin in the 1/4 mile. Probably because the thing is a 4000 pound beast. 2010 Camaro was better than the 2010 Mustang and Challenger in just about every category.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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just race him and shut him the hell up. If he doesn't have one of those cars to race, then tell him if he's so confident go buy one and race you, if he wins you'll take over his payments
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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-charger/challenger vs. t/a- um trans am would by far for a challenger, would have a good run with the fast chargers.. but still would pull up top.

-charger/challenger vs. vette- this is retarded.. the ******* vette would rape both
-charger/challenger vs. 2010 camaro-mustang- well its already been proven that the challenger is the slowest of the New big 3.. so this is a dumb question, maybe the charger would have a good race though im not sure though.

-1998 eldorado...hahahaha....vs. t/a- im not even answering this one..

-lambos vs. cammed t/a- depends what lambo.., if it was a new gallardo or merc. then the lambo def. If the trans am also had spray then the ta.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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a friend has a Charger SRT8. She talked all kinds of smack until she drove my TA. you should of seen the look on her face! She just cut a check for $26k the day before for her car, and when I told her I spent $10k on mine, she almost had a heart attack! I drove the Charger, it was very comfortable, but definately a pig. Not a bad car though. I would love to drive a Challenger for comparative reasons
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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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yea, the ******* got me so pissed and everybody was laughing at me cus it seemed like i was just saying my cars that fast...its not but i was just stating facts + i was talking about my car in stock form...ahhhh he got me pissed.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jdoostil
a friend has a Charger SRT8. She talked all kinds of smack until she drove my TA. you should of seen the look on her face! She just cut a check for $26k the day before for her car, and when I told her I spent $10k on mine, she almost had a heart attack! I drove the Charger, it was very comfortable, but definately a pig. Not a bad car though. I would love to drive a Challenger for comparative reasons

that sucks..lol.. no doubt i would take a T/A in a heartbeat, but wouldnt mind daily driving a charger SRT8 for sure.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Motortrend ran a 13.0 in a new Camaro and I think a 13.6 in the Challenger. The SRT8 Challenger is only supposed to run a low 13 according to Dodge.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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i ran againts the new challenger at MIR last year. it still had 30 day tags on it. His best time of the night was against me, and we both ran a 13.257. The things are quick, but he barely competing with the C5 z06, let alone the new C6. Def just bring up the motor trend issue where they compare all the new cars. the challenger got its *** handed to it by the Camaro.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 69lemansguy
i ran againts the new challenger at MIR last year. it still had 30 day tags on it. His best time of the night was against me, and we both ran a 13.257. The things are quick, but he barely competing with the C5 z06, let alone the new C6. Def just bring up the motor trend issue where they compare all the new cars. the challenger got its *** handed to it by the Camaro.
the problem with that is if they're anything like the people on here, they'll immediately dismiss it as magazine times and the dodge driver didn't know what he was doing.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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true, true. thats why im glad i was able to watch one at the track all day, gave me a good idea of what it can and cant do.
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