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Old 04-15-2010, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW30th-TA
Reading down through through the suggestions this one tops them all off.

What is your rpm's at while driving down the interstate. I will have the T56 for a while but that TH400 sure was a nice improvement for you.
Right now I am about 3000rpm @65 and 3500rpm@75mph

I think the converter is too loose. There is no way I should have been running out of gear at 141mph with 28s and 3.70 gears. I hit the revlimiter(7100rpm) in 3rd right at the traps. I need to look at my logs tonight and see how much converter slip I am having.
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
Right now I am about 3000rpm @65 and 3500rpm@75mph

I think the converter is too loose. There is no way I should have been running out of gear at 141mph with 28s and 3.70 gears. I hit the revlimiter(7100rpm) in 3rd right at the traps. I need to look at my logs tonight and see how much converter slip I am having.
Well you're not going 141mph through the traps, you're going a bit faster than that.

If you're converter is slipping more than 5 percent or so, your effective RPM would be about 6700 with a 7100 motor RPM. Assuming a true 28" tire, you should be hitting about 150 on the top end. Now what you're averaging over the last 66' is what gets reported as your 1/4 MPH.

Agreed that you should have a few more MPH left, but not much. If the converter is slipping more it's either time for a more efficient converter or a 3.5x gear set.
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it is a 28x10.5 ET street.
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
it is a 28x10.5 ET street.
Sure it's a 28x10.5 ET Street? I see a 28x11.5 and a 27x10.5 listed, but can't find any listing of a 28x10.5 ET Street.
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Is that what the mods in your sig?
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Your rpm does seem a little high. I have 28's and 3.73's and I gett 12% slip with my converter. 132mph is 6600 in my car and I get about 5-6mph for every 100rpms so mine would be around 150-154 at 7100. Your converter must be slipping a ton with all that power.
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See everyone.... get rid of the 6spds.... we need more people doing this due to the 6spd guys that can't drive giving us bad names. You too can drop a half a second going from a shitty 6spd driver to a auto

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I think it was 28x11.5 I will check tonight for sure.



The car is a forged 347. home ported 243 heads with a 1.60 exhaust valve, victor JR intake, 235/251 .621/.624 115 blower cam, and a TH400 now
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Originally Posted by Zturd
See everyone.... get rid of the 6spds.... we need more people doing this due to the 6spd guys that can't drive giving us bad names. You too can drop a half a second going from a shitty 6spd driver to a auto

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Yeah ok. You can't say that you haven't had your fair share of 6spd related breakages and failures.
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Originally Posted by 2ktransam
Your rpm does seem a little high. I have 28's and 3.73's and I gett 12% slip with my converter. 132mph is 6600 in my car and I get about 5-6mph for every 100rpms so mine would be around 150-154 at 7100. Your converter must be slipping a ton with all that power.
12% calculates for your setup. 6600 with no slip would be 147 with 3.73s, 28" tires and a 1:1 ratio. With converter slip accounted for it's 132.

6600 * 0.12 = 792 RPMs
6600-792 = 5808 RPMs
MPH @ 5808 RPMs = 129.7
Tire diameter growth accounted for (1/2") = 132
Now since we're guess-timating the tire growth, and since the MPH we're calculating is the exact 1320' MPH not the average 1254'-1320' MPH like they give you, we're in the ball park.

Your setup at 7100 however would only be 142 mph or so.

Just assuming he was at 7100 and the trap speed was 141:

Trap speed with no slip - 159.85 mph
RPMs with no slip @ 141mph - 6275

Approximate converter slip : 11.5%

It's all straight forward math. The only variables here are the converter slip percentage, and the actual diameter of the tires.

(Yep, another worthless bunch of math. But it's either I type this **** or I do work.)
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See everyone.... get rid of the 6spds.... we need more people doing this due to the 6spd guys that can't drive giving us bad names. You too can drop a half a second going from a shitty 6spd driver to a auto

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Hey man, how's your quest for 10s going with the C6Z?

-Shitty 6 Spd Ford Driver
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So would you say 12% slp is too much. I am gonna look at my mph vs rpm in my data logs tonight.

a tighter converter or a gear change would make this nice to drive on the street.
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Originally Posted by Zturd
See everyone.... get rid of the 6spds.... we need more people doing this due to the 6spd guys that can't drive giving us bad names. You too can drop a half a second going from a shitty 6spd driver to a auto

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LOL I have dropped 1.1 seconds off of my best 6spd pass so far.
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that's way too much, I am going thru the traps with a 3.73 and a 28x10.5S tire and seeing under 6800. You're blowing right thru that thing, get it tightened up some and I bet it picks up even more. You probably have 9.0 potential once you get that sorted.
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Originally Posted by 351carlo
12% calculates for your setup. 6600 with no slip would be 147 with 3.73s, 28" tires and a 1:1 ratio. With converter slip accounted for it's 132.



Now since we're guess-timating the tire growth, and since the MPH we're calculating is the exact 1320' MPH not the average 1254'-1320' MPH like they give you, we're in the ball park.

Your setup at 7100 however would only be 142 mph or so.

Just assuming he was at 7100 and the trap speed was 141:

Trap speed with no slip - 159.85 mph
RPMs with no slip @ 141mph - 6275

Approximate converter slip : 11.5%

It's all straight forward math. The only variables here are the converter slip percentage, and the actual diameter of the tires.

(Yep, another worthless bunch of math. But it's either I type this **** or I do work.)
I don't think it is just simple math with a slipping converter. At 6000 rpms i'm doing 96mph wich is 30% slip. I think tipically a converter gets more effecient as they go up in rpms. I gain 36mph from 6000-6600 because the converter slips less the higher I wind it.

Dan, the more power you put into that coverter the more it is going to slip so you might need to have it tightened up some. What converter is it?
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
I think it was 28x11.5 I will check tonight for sure.



The car is a forged 347. home ported 243 heads with a 1.60 exhaust valve, victor JR intake, 235/251 .621/.624 115 blower cam, and a TH400 now
You have changed your setup quite a few times (cams, trans, intake)? What intake elbow did you go with, does it clear the cowl, any pics?

What happened to the T56 (damages/ draw backs)?

I have a lot of questions as I am building the same thing however it has been put on hold with buying a house.
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Originally Posted by SLOW30th-TA
You have changed your setup quite a few times (cams, trans, intake)? What intake elbow did you go with, does it clear the cowl, any pics?

What happened to the T56 (damages/ draw backs)?

I have a lot of questions as I am building the same thing however it has been put on hold with buying a house.
Well last year I was stock heads a smaller cam and ls6 intake still the forged motor. I had the t56 in it then although I did do some upgrades to it. I went 10.33@136 with that setup. made 676rwhp and 590 rwtq. The reason for the swtich was needed a new clutch and looking at $1500 clutches and I got a complete swap for $1700.

I have a intakeelbows.com elbow and I had to shim the k member down just a bit to clear the hood.
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Congrats man, 9's are no joke!
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
that's way too much, I am going thru the traps with a 3.73 and a 28x10.5S tire and seeing under 6800. You're blowing right thru that thing, get it tightened up some and I bet it picks up even more. You probably have 9.0 potential once you get that sorted.
Well looking at my logs I am showing 6400rpm @ 147mph I am not 100% sure how acurate the speedo is but that is the mph and rpm that I let out of the throttle.

I guess I still have more room for improvement.
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That mph is jacked. I've never seen a TH400 swap actually have the speedo work right.

6400 rom doesn't make sense either, that could be right... do you have a tach in the car? What is it saying going thru the traps, not the factory one because that's totally useless..



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