Texting while driving.
This is the way I see it. Yes it's a very idiotic thing to do, but because its such a simple and innocent activity I think we are blurring the importance of the impact it really has. I am a big advocate for freedom and individual rights and small gov't/law etc... but here is the thing.
Laws like seatbelt requirements I am against. Its a good idea to wear a seatbelt and I always do, but to be forced to wear it if you choose not, I am against!
Laws like banning texting while driving... how many people do you know that have died from the "other" person not wearing their seatbelt? People die from this activity, and not just the person doing it, but other people all the time. That is the problem. By participating in this activity you are willingly putting everybody elses life at risk on the road. What is so important you cannot check your message/email later that you are willing to take that risk?
I've been in an accident when this has occurred, I know people that have died because of this or become permanently disabled (from both sides of the table).
It's unnecessary and you are putting others in harms way, knowingly. It's not that by doing it you are a bad person or a criminal its about being responsible. Driving a car is not a right, its a privelage. And nobody has the right to decide how much somebody else's life is worth. Laws are meant to protect people and this one does.
It's been proven time and time again that this activity in particular is one of the most distracting activities you can do behind the wheel.
Laws like seatbelt requirements I am against. Its a good idea to wear a seatbelt and I always do, but to be forced to wear it if you choose not, I am against!
Laws like banning texting while driving... how many people do you know that have died from the "other" person not wearing their seatbelt? People die from this activity, and not just the person doing it, but other people all the time. That is the problem. By participating in this activity you are willingly putting everybody elses life at risk on the road. What is so important you cannot check your message/email later that you are willing to take that risk?
I've been in an accident when this has occurred, I know people that have died because of this or become permanently disabled (from both sides of the table).
It's unnecessary and you are putting others in harms way, knowingly. It's not that by doing it you are a bad person or a criminal its about being responsible. Driving a car is not a right, its a privelage. And nobody has the right to decide how much somebody else's life is worth. Laws are meant to protect people and this one does.
It's been proven time and time again that this activity in particular is one of the most distracting activities you can do behind the wheel.
I think like you do. But what if I told you that seat belts do more than just keep the person in the seat belt safe. People without seat belts get thrown from cars sometimes...what does it do to passengers or other motorists if the person is not in the driver seat to control the wheel? Can that not put others in harm? I totally agree it should be personaly choice though. I mean, you dont see politicians out lawing motorcyles because they dont have seatbelts lol.
Seriously though, we can say that lots of people have been in accidents from texting, but how many other things do people do that cause accidents that dosent get reported? Someone shuffling in their conole for their lost cig lighter, cds, looking for radio stations, ect... Theres tons of other things people do to get into accidents. So should we ban any kind of thing that could potentially distract drivers like...no smoking while driving, no more sterios in cars, no windows/comfort controls, or something I would be guilty of...getting alot of road-dome while driving?
This world is getting pretty wacked with all these laws. We are moving into the times of "The Thought Police"
I think like you do. But what if I told you that seat belts do more than just keep the person in the seat belt safe. People without seat belts get thrown from cars sometimes...what does it do to passengers or other motorists if the person is not in the driver seat to control the wheel? Can that not put others in harm? I totally agree it should be personaly choice though. I mean, you dont see politicians out lawing motorcyles because they dont have seatbelts lol.
Seriously though, we can say that lots of people have been in accidents from texting, but how many other things do people do that cause accidents that dosent get reported? Someone shuffling in their conole for their lost cig lighter, cds, looking for radio stations, ect... Theres tons of other things people do to get into accidents. So should we ban any kind of thing that could potentially distract drivers like...no smoking while driving, no more sterios in cars, no windows/comfort controls, or something I would be guilty of...getting alot of road-dome while driving?
This world is getting pretty wacked with all these laws. We are moving into the times of "The Thought Police"
Seriously though, we can say that lots of people have been in accidents from texting, but how many other things do people do that cause accidents that dosent get reported? Someone shuffling in their conole for their lost cig lighter, cds, looking for radio stations, ect... Theres tons of other things people do to get into accidents. So should we ban any kind of thing that could potentially distract drivers like...no smoking while driving, no more sterios in cars, no windows/comfort controls, or something I would be guilty of...getting alot of road-dome while driving?
This world is getting pretty wacked with all these laws. We are moving into the times of "The Thought Police"
First off Id like to throw 
out on the tech is there to disable texting when youre behind the wheel. Hell to even disable the whole phone? Love to hear that bit of sci-fi.
Second, its no more dangerous then any of the following.
-police using laptops
-disciplining children
-eating
-messing with your overly complicated 2000 dollar stereo
-putting on makeup
-reading
-even talking to people in the car
-doing anything with your gps
-using maps(this one is outdated, but used to happen all the time)
-I can go all day, you cant just vilify one activity. If you want to attack all distracted driving then fine go for it. At least I can see and follow your logic, but if youre one of the people sayin, "I dont text while driving thats idiotic!" and you do any of the above then you are a hypocrit and no one is going to listen to you.
Your logic is extremely flawed. You are saying anything that puts others lives at risk while being behind the wheel of a car should have strong legal consequences. You are putting other people at risk doing anything in your car except for hands 10-2, actively scanning surroundings and mirrors for threats, and looking at the road.
Furthermore, I can garuntee every person who has ever or is currently driving a car is guilty of not paying attention, zoning out, or engaging in other distracting activities. And in no way operates a vehicle the way government has outlined that we should. I am also ignoring proper maintenance of vehicles, thats just as dangerous to those around you as not paying attention.
out on the tech is there to disable texting when youre behind the wheel. Hell to even disable the whole phone? Love to hear that bit of sci-fi.Second, its no more dangerous then any of the following.
-police using laptops
-disciplining children
-eating
-messing with your overly complicated 2000 dollar stereo
-putting on makeup
-reading
-even talking to people in the car
-doing anything with your gps
-using maps(this one is outdated, but used to happen all the time)
-I can go all day, you cant just vilify one activity. If you want to attack all distracted driving then fine go for it. At least I can see and follow your logic, but if youre one of the people sayin, "I dont text while driving thats idiotic!" and you do any of the above then you are a hypocrit and no one is going to listen to you.
Your logic is extremely flawed. You are saying anything that puts others lives at risk while being behind the wheel of a car should have strong legal consequences. You are putting other people at risk doing anything in your car except for hands 10-2, actively scanning surroundings and mirrors for threats, and looking at the road.
Furthermore, I can garuntee every person who has ever or is currently driving a car is guilty of not paying attention, zoning out, or engaging in other distracting activities. And in no way operates a vehicle the way government has outlined that we should. I am also ignoring proper maintenance of vehicles, thats just as dangerous to those around you as not paying attention.
A more standardized solution could be done between phone and auto manufactures. Look how common keyless ignition is now, that’s not really any more difficult to implement than to block a cell phone feature(s).
If you really don't think that kind of technology is not in our immediate future, then I probably shouldn't tell you we landed on the moon in 1969.
But this is really not the point, and forgive my acerbity. That aside.
I really do agree with your reasoning that there are other things that can be just as distracting. Anything that takes your eyes and concentration of the road. Why do phones/texting get picked on? Well simply because its a boarder line epidemic in this country. AND there is tracibility to the cause.
Reading a book or a map, etc is just as bad, I don't condone it and I don't do it if I'm driving. I hope you don't condone those action either. If you get pulled over reading a book, it should be treated the same. The difference is texting leaves a trail that holds up better legally. It's still the drivers responisibility to to keep control of his vehicle at all times, if you gotta turn around to scold kids or pick up the burger you just dropped, then pulling over would be the better option.
Personally I make it a point to keep my eyes on the road, and you can ask anybody that rides with me I'm pretty serious about paying attention to what I'm doing (including not even answering my cell phone if I'm driving). So yes to a point I agree that my "texting" category pretty much encapsulates anything that takes you eyes off the road and hands off the wheel.
I can chew bubble gum, fart, talk, and drive at the same time. But, I can't return a text without my control and attention being severely limited. I carpool with guy who tries to pull that crap on me, he hasn't even typed the 2nd letter and he's on the rumble strip on occasion. Yeah I get pissed.
Am I a hardass about it, yeah you bet. But I am pretty adamant about having control of any weapon your enabling or in possession of. Yeah a car is a "weapon", a 2 ton weapon. If you kill somebody because you choose to be irresponsible not by accident then I hope you get the full force of the law raining down on you. Maybe I'm tough on it, but would you rather drive down the interstate with my kinda like minded people or the type from your list?
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Just leave road-dome alone please
As far as that "guy" goes I openly despise him probably more than anything else in the universe.
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Sorry to hear about your friend that died OP.
I dont know who mentioned that you couldnt be pulled over and ticketed for texting and driving before it was a law, but thats incorrect. I personally know state troopers who have ticketed people for distractions such as texting, gps use, etc.. They could always pull you over for it and give you a ticket for such things. I forget exactly the law that would be stated on the ticket, but it has happened prior to the law,
I dont know who mentioned that you couldnt be pulled over and ticketed for texting and driving before it was a law, but thats incorrect. I personally know state troopers who have ticketed people for distractions such as texting, gps use, etc.. They could always pull you over for it and give you a ticket for such things. I forget exactly the law that would be stated on the ticket, but it has happened prior to the law,
Yes and with my seatbelt on to!
Sorry to hear about your friend that died OP.
I dont know who mentioned that you couldnt be pulled over and ticketed for texting and driving before it was a law, but thats incorrect. I personally know state troopers who have ticketed people for distractions such as texting, gps use, etc.. They could always pull you over for it and give you a ticket for such things. I forget exactly the law that would be stated on the ticket, but it has happened prior to the law,
I dont know who mentioned that you couldnt be pulled over and ticketed for texting and driving before it was a law, but thats incorrect. I personally know state troopers who have ticketed people for distractions such as texting, gps use, etc.. They could always pull you over for it and give you a ticket for such things. I forget exactly the law that would be stated on the ticket, but it has happened prior to the law,
This is called the "thought police" law or the **** germany/no due process/anti constitution law
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=technology+to+d...+while+driving
A more standardized solution could be done between phone and auto manufactures. Look how common keyless ignition is now, that’s not really any more difficult to implement than to block a cell phone feature(s).
If you really don't think that kind of technology is not in our immediate future, then I probably shouldn't tell you we landed on the moon in 1969.
But this is really not the point, and forgive my acerbity. That aside.
I really do agree with your reasoning that there are other things that can be just as distracting. Anything that takes your eyes and concentration of the road. Why do phones/texting get picked on? Well simply because its a boarder line epidemic in this country. AND there is tracibility to the cause.
Reading a book or a map, etc is just as bad, I don't condone it and I don't do it if I'm driving. I hope you don't condone those action either. If you get pulled over reading a book, it should be treated the same. The difference is texting leaves a trail that holds up better legally. It's still the drivers responisibility to to keep control of his vehicle at all times, if you gotta turn around to scold kids or pick up the burger you just dropped, then pulling over would be the better option.
Personally I make it a point to keep my eyes on the road, and you can ask anybody that rides with me I'm pretty serious about paying attention to what I'm doing (including not even answering my cell phone if I'm driving). So yes to a point I agree that my "texting" category pretty much encapsulates anything that takes you eyes off the road and hands off the wheel.
I can chew bubble gum, fart, talk, and drive at the same time. But, I can't return a text without my control and attention being severely limited. I carpool with guy who tries to pull that crap on me, he hasn't even typed the 2nd letter and he's on the rumble strip on occasion. Yeah I get pissed.
Am I a hardass about it, yeah you bet. But I am pretty adamant about having control of any weapon your enabling or in possession of. Yeah a car is a "weapon", a 2 ton weapon. If you kill somebody because you choose to be irresponsible not by accident then I hope you get the full force of the law raining down on you. Maybe I'm tough on it, but would you rather drive down the interstate with my kinda like minded people or the type from your list?
A more standardized solution could be done between phone and auto manufactures. Look how common keyless ignition is now, that’s not really any more difficult to implement than to block a cell phone feature(s).
If you really don't think that kind of technology is not in our immediate future, then I probably shouldn't tell you we landed on the moon in 1969.
But this is really not the point, and forgive my acerbity. That aside.
I really do agree with your reasoning that there are other things that can be just as distracting. Anything that takes your eyes and concentration of the road. Why do phones/texting get picked on? Well simply because its a boarder line epidemic in this country. AND there is tracibility to the cause.
Reading a book or a map, etc is just as bad, I don't condone it and I don't do it if I'm driving. I hope you don't condone those action either. If you get pulled over reading a book, it should be treated the same. The difference is texting leaves a trail that holds up better legally. It's still the drivers responisibility to to keep control of his vehicle at all times, if you gotta turn around to scold kids or pick up the burger you just dropped, then pulling over would be the better option.
Personally I make it a point to keep my eyes on the road, and you can ask anybody that rides with me I'm pretty serious about paying attention to what I'm doing (including not even answering my cell phone if I'm driving). So yes to a point I agree that my "texting" category pretty much encapsulates anything that takes you eyes off the road and hands off the wheel.
I can chew bubble gum, fart, talk, and drive at the same time. But, I can't return a text without my control and attention being severely limited. I carpool with guy who tries to pull that crap on me, he hasn't even typed the 2nd letter and he's on the rumble strip on occasion. Yeah I get pissed.
Am I a hardass about it, yeah you bet. But I am pretty adamant about having control of any weapon your enabling or in possession of. Yeah a car is a "weapon", a 2 ton weapon. If you kill somebody because you choose to be irresponsible not by accident then I hope you get the full force of the law raining down on you. Maybe I'm tough on it, but would you rather drive down the interstate with my kinda like minded people or the type from your list?
.Try again.
On the second part, atleast you agree with the logic of my post. I still have a hard time believing no matter how much you type you are a hardass about it that you arent guilty of at least some of it. Never met someone that wasnt, you are trying to outlaw human nature. There will always be distractions. Only way to rid it completely is to take the human out of the equation, but thats another argument all together.
Last edited by jrob56; Sep 7, 2012 at 03:08 PM.
Only problem is SIRI needs to be on wifi or 3G I believe, but I dont think all phones with the feature do.
But what you said there is the way everything is going. Voice activated controls.
How about voice activated road-dome now thats a concept
Last edited by senicalj4579; Sep 7, 2012 at 04:08 PM.
Some of them are pretty good, and it varies person to person. It does learn though, the longer you use it, the better it should get. Atleast the models I have seen.