The General is in Trouble
Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Aw, it's your right to post what you want, I guess... I was just in the mood to stick up for my loyalty to the GM and Chevy nameplates last night. You've been around here awhile, also. Pretty stupid on my part to question anyone elses loyalties.... WJ
Originally Posted by Mr. B
If I had endless funds, I'd be in a Twin Turbo Z06.. but I'm a common man without riches..
GM used to have great ad campains. They barely promoted the GTO, and their cars never really get a total facelift. My Camaro sports the same steering column for 20 years. The GTO has been out for several years overseas - I think their designers need to be fired to bring new ones in. They are going to have to spend some money to entice new buyers. The automotive industry has taken a big hit accross the board. Buick hasn't seen a new car in YEARS - if they decide to lose any brand, I hope it is Buick! I thought the G6 would do well. How many Grand Ams do you see on the road - even Sunfires... I'm just rambling, but agreeing that GM needs to make a few tweaks and changes before things get worse. I love my SS, but lets face it, it is not very refined for a 2002 which leaves me thinking about a GTO or even a 2005 GT 
Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
NJ is weird.... 
WJ
WJ
Originally Posted by DarkSideSS
Nothing wrong with being brand loyal.
Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Yes, yes it is.
I agree, though I consider myself to be more of the domestic brand loyal type.
I agree, though I consider myself to be more of the domestic brand loyal type.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
The G6 will never be a big seller. The car is average, thats it. Its a nice improvement over the Grand Am, but a well optioned G6 it close to $29k. It will become the rental car of choice, just like the Grand Am....Good luck convincing people to buy a G6 over a V6 Accord. Resale value alone would sway me to buy an Accord and its not like the G6 is an 'exciting' car. Both are bland.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
The Cobalt should sell well, especially the cheaper models. Japan's economy cars have all gotten rather expensive over the past few years. A decently optioned Civic/Corrolla/Sentra is ~ $18k. The Cobalt should be able to step in there and make a mark.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
The Lacross will be a bomb. Not sure what people are actually buying them for in real world numbers, but I looked at one a few weeks ago. They are actually quite nice inside and look better in person then they do on TV. But $31,000 seems crazy to me. Maxima owns....
Originally Posted by Kenny H
Malibu is supposed to be solid. I have not checked them out much....
The C6 will sell well as long as the prices stay where they are.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
The Solstice may do just enough to keep Pontiac around. The cars supposedly will have a killer initial waiting list at MSRP or above. Thats a pretty neat car.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
GM should hype the Saturn Vue V6 more then they do. Thats a badass SUV. For all the Dodge Hemi-BS, the Saturn Vue with the Honda V6 isn't much slower. They are quick little SUVs, something like 15.4 I think. Build quality is supposed to be decent and the drivetrain should be solid.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
Unfortunately I think most of the new Caddies will be bombs. The imports have just taken that class over. I'm surprised the CTS-V hasn't sold better, thats a pretty world class car IMO. GM faces a major image problem with Caddilac against the imports....
Originally Posted by aliwantsnss
They already have a list at MSRP. We have more people waiting for them than we did Vettes. You can't beat the car for the money. They are hoping for the next Miata. My only concern is when the Saturn Sky comes out, its nicer looking.
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Originally Posted by '02 SLP#686
GM used to have great ad campains. They barely promoted the GTO, and their cars never really get a total facelift. My Camaro sports the same steering column for 20 years. The GTO has been out for several years overseas - I think their designers need to be fired to bring new ones in. They are going to have to spend some money to entice new buyers. The automotive industry has taken a big hit accross the board. Buick hasn't seen a new car in YEARS - if they decide to lose any brand, I hope it is Buick! I thought the G6 would do well. How many Grand Ams do you see on the road - even Sunfires... I'm just rambling, but agreeing that GM needs to make a few tweaks and changes before things get worse. I love my SS, but lets face it, it is not very refined for a 2002 which leaves me thinking about a GTO or even a 2005 GT
Buick is sellling less cars right now, than Oldsmobile was selling when they got the axe. I wouldn't be suprised to see Buick get the axe in the near future if things don't turn around.
Bruce
Bruce
Originally Posted by Hardtop
Buick is sellling less cars right now, than Oldsmobile was selling when they got the axe. I wouldn't be suprised to see Buick get the axe in the near future if things don't turn around.
....how many more American companies have to go under before people realize that they're potentially destroying their children's/grandchildren's futures by buying strictly ONLY import nameplates. If GM or Ford go down (not likely, fortunately) it's basically ALL over, this is no joke.