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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimitz87
why do you say they have to? sure they can, but its a VERY capable car right out of the box.

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I'm saying that if anyone is going to do SERIOUS road racing they aren't going to buy a new SC'ed Vette and have to rip all the interior, A/C, stereo, etc out of it. They can go out and have some fun with it, but not serious road racing, like as in competition. The serious racer buys a regular Vette and mods it.

Its capable out of the box, but its not gonna hang with a real road race prepped Vette or other car.

Look, its just a rip-off. $130,000 is hilarious for a 2 seat American made sports car. I'd much rather have a Mercedes SL 55 AMG, 510 hp. At least I know it won't start falling apart in 5 years like the Vette will. And it will hold value, unlike the Vette.

Its all about value and performance for me, you have to have both. $130,000for a Vette is paying about 2-3 times what its worth. The Mercedes is also over priced, but look what you're getting...a seriously built car.

And I really don't care that the Vette will beat it on a track. 99% of people that buy Vettes have never even seen a track.

Don't mean to beat up on American made cars, but its just the way it is.

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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bluecamaroz28
He could have built 8 sec DD car for less than half the price of that ZR1. Nice car and good time though.
Maybe, but the ZR1 comes with a warranty and a 7:22 'ring time, do that for half the price...
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
I'm saying that if anyone is going to do SERIOUS road racing they aren't going to buy a new SC'ed Vette and have to rip all the interior, A/C, stereo, etc out of it. They can go out and have some fun with it, but not serious road racing, like as in competition. The serious racer buys a regular Vette and mods it.

Its capable out of the box, but its not gonna hang with a real road race prepped Vette or other car.

Look, its just a rip-off. $130,000 is hilarious for a 2 seat American made sports car. I'd much rather have a Mercedes SL 55 AMG, 510 hp. At least I know it won't start falling apart in 5 years like the Vette will. And it will hold value, unlike the Vette.

Its all about value and performance for me, you have to have both. $130,000for a Vette is paying about 2-3 times what its worth. The Mercedes is also over priced, but look what you're getting...a seriously built car.

And I really don't care that the Vette will beat it on a track. 99% of people that buy Vettes have never even seen a track.

Don't mean to beat up on American made cars, but its just the way it is.
You must be the stupidest ******* person posting in this thread. Both the vette and the viper annihilate the porsche (and nearly every other car in the world) in every performance category conceivable, and do it for much less money.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LS6427

Look, its just a rip-off. $130,000 is hilarious for a 2 seat American made sports car. I'd much rather have a Mercedes SL 55 AMG, 510 hp. At least I know it won't start falling apart in 5 years like the Vette will. And it will hold value, unlike the Vette.

Its all about value and performance for me, you have to have both. $130,000for a Vette is paying about 2-3 times what its worth. The Mercedes is also over priced, but look what you're getting...a seriously built car.

Don't mean to beat up on American made cars, but its just the way it is.
Wow... Can you be any more ignorant.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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If you want to beat a ZR1 you should buy a ZR1 for $125-$130k buddy

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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LSONE
You must be the stupidest ******* person posting in this thread. Both the vette and the viper annihilate the porsche (and nearly every other car in the world) in every performance category conceivable, and do it for much less money.
And you must be the stupidest ******* ******* in Palm Harbor, not that there would be much competition there. Read and comprehend posts before posting. Its not just about who wins a race, its just not worth $130,000. You can build a plastic kit car that will destroy the Vette on a road course for $10,000, so what! Thats not the point. Value and quality matter.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Wow... Can you be any more ignorant.
So you think a Vette is built better than a Mercedes????

Whos the ignorant moron now?
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Look, its my opinion on the Vette that its a rip-off.

You all have your opinions too.

Good day.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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the edit button and multi " " are your friends...next time to make the flame easier to read, use one post...

plus if it is your opinion, do you really have to defend it? if people on here flame you for it, then should you really be posting more of it up?

see how i used the edit button? it was so easy even a caveman could do it
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Seen one about a month ago at the new zMAX Dragway in NC. Ran 129 on a TERRIBLE pass.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimitz87
yeah and that "vette" will rip it a new ******* on the road courses as well.

anyone who buys the ZR1 for a drag racing car is wasting what it was built for.

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True that.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
And you must be the stupidest ******* ******* in Palm Harbor, not that there would be much competition there. Read and comprehend posts before posting. Its not just about who wins a race, its just not worth $130,000. You can build a plastic kit car that will destroy the Vette on a road course for $10,000, so what! Thats not the point. Value and quality matter.
I don't live in Palm Harbor anymore, but nice try. A mercedes is a luxury car, not a sports car. If you want a decently quick luxury car, then I agree, am AMG Mercedes is probably what you're looking for. Apples to oranges comparison. I'm positive that you have not sat in in new ZR1, so you are basing this on....? Exactly.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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To LS6427
coming from personal experience on AMG's since my roomie owns one. He's had it at the dealership more than any other car i've seen. So unless you've owned an AMG or worked on it, I dont think you should be saying how awesome it holds up.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Look, its my opinion on the Vette that its a rip-off.

You all have your opinions too.

Good day.
Yep, and good day to you as well, now get the **** out of the thread. You stated your opinion, quit pushing it on other people.

My opinion? Have you ever seen the repair bill on anything out of warranty for a Porsche or a Mercedes?
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Its going into the new CTS-V.... so no way will it be in a F-Body............
Do you think GM will offer a LS9 crate engine?
If so, how damn expensive will it be??
Hmmmmm...
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sixt9er
Do you think GM will offer a LS9 crate engine?
If so, how damn expensive will it be??
Hmmmmm...
Well from what others are saying and what ive bben reading it wont be the LS9 in the CTS-V....
If i had to guess id say the same if not more then an LS7. so $14K.... not sure..... prob way cheaper to build your own 383 or 402 and procharge it.

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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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just a side note for the lsa gm had released that it was going in the z28 due out in 2010 with the convertible but they have issued press releases stating they killed the project. i would rather order a dealer special ss with the ls7.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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One was at Bradenton Motor Sports Park, in Bradenton, FL a few weeks ago. Went 11.4's at some stupid high MPH. Guy was a hell of a driver too. Dang thing was skating all over the place the whole time. Wont be but a few more weeks before someone has this car in the 10's. As far as tires for the car. You know someone is out there right now making tires for this beast to give the owner the edge as it deserves.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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the new CTS-V will have the LSA in it...and yes GM will offer an LS9 complete crate engine...S\C and all...somewhere in the neighborhood of about $25k
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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The LS9 is a hopped up LSA, BOTH engines are LS3's with bloweres and 9.1:1 CR
Not a TOTALLY different powerplant, they are actually very similar, just use SOME different parts

LS9 6.2L
638hp/604lb/ft
forged pistons/crank/main caps
rods forged titanium
2.3L TVS blower
integrated DUAL coolant to air intercooler
6600rpm rev limit

LSA
556hp/551 lb/ft
cast hyper pistons
forged crank/rods
nodular iron caps
1.9L TVS blower
integrated single coolant to air intercooler
6200rpm rev limit


here is the 6.2 Marine LSA for sale
http://www.gm.com/experience/technol...LSA_Marine.pdf


we may see a version of the LS9/LSA or maybe even LS7 in the upcomming Z28 Camaro that will trump the 09 SS.

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