Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

TC78 and 408cui build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-15-2009 | 09:02 PM
  #1  
cellulis44's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default TC78 and 408cui build

few people say the .96ar tc78 w/ 68 turbine is to small for a stock headed 408cui..

few say its fine?

what say ye?

on other option for me is a pt88.
Old 06-15-2009 | 10:42 PM
  #2  
eviltwin_1987's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,002
Likes: 0
From: Nor Cal
Default

to small. get atleast a 88
Old 06-15-2009 | 11:10 PM
  #3  
black98ws6ta's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (77)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,107
Likes: 2
From: louisville,ky
Default

Depends on how much power you want to make. Either way its not optimal.
Old 06-15-2009 | 11:25 PM
  #4  
crashly's Avatar
TECH Apprentice

 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 361
Likes: 1
From: australia
Default

you can buy larger a/r housings...
they are just split pulse....
Old 06-16-2009 | 12:50 AM
  #5  
Frost's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,913
Likes: 2
From: Richmond VA
Default

If you mean the T4 PTE88, what over 400 cubes I'd say that you will still run into backpressure issues if you push it much at all. The 78 is no.
Old 06-16-2009 | 10:05 AM
  #6  
ScorpionT's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: White Bear Lake
Default

TC78 is definitely too small.
Old 06-16-2009 | 11:21 AM
  #7  
cellulis44's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default

alright, well someone buy this damn 78 already
Old 06-16-2009 | 12:14 PM
  #8  
Karpellarpy's Avatar
On The Tree

iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, South Carolina
Default

Is this a street car, or strip car? Front mount or Rear mount? Jose of Forced Induction Inc. recommended a TC76 for my rear mount 402cu street car. Also, there's been no mention of your power goal.

Last edited by Karpellarpy; 06-16-2009 at 12:14 PM. Reason: adding additional information
Old 06-16-2009 | 12:46 PM
  #9  
DrTurbo's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Karpellarpy
Is this a street car, or strip car? Front mount or Rear mount? Jose of Forced Induction Inc. recommended a TC76 for my rear mount 402cu street car. Also, there's been no mention of your power goal.

Rear mount recommendations will be way different then front mount depending on the level of power you are trying to run. A TC76 for a rear mount 402 will work beautifully up to 650-700rwhp. Put that same turbo on a front mount 402 and it will choke like a rock.
Old 06-16-2009 | 12:48 PM
  #10  
DrTurbo's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by cellulis44
few people say the .96ar tc78 w/ 68 turbine is to small for a stock headed 408cui..

few say its fine?

what say ye?

on other option for me is a pt88.
Without a power goal no one will know. For modest setup, the TC78 will work with a 1.15A/R being stock headed makes a nice difference. Now using big heads and looking for a 1000rwhp.....no. You would need a GT88 or GT47-88, or even a GT5018.
Old 06-16-2009 | 12:53 PM
  #11  
cellulis44's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default

my goal started out in the 800hp range.

realistically, more like 650-750 whp

This is a street car, so I dont plan on taking the 408 much past 6000rpms.

I know if I do use the tc78, I will have enormous instant torque but like steve told me, it will nose over around 5000rpms and stop making power.
Old 06-16-2009 | 01:42 PM
  #12  
Frost's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,913
Likes: 2
From: Richmond VA
Default

Chris!!! I didn't realize this was you. Though I did think to myself "man haven't I heard these questions recently?"

If you don't want to make more than 650-750 and don't mind being a little RPM limited, the PTE88 may be an option, but that many cubes will really appreciate a better exhaust side.
Old 06-16-2009 | 01:45 PM
  #13  
Zombie's Avatar
10 Second Club

iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 4
From: Las Vegas
Default

I have a 3900lb car that traps 136mph through a TH400 on 15psi with a 5000+ DA and is horribly inefficient (2.25"-2.5" IC Piping). Anyone is welcome to copy it. It's a **** ton of fun to drive on the street, haven't lost to a liter bike on the highway in a long long time.

With a 408 I'd step up to something like GT47-88 myself as long as a 1.0+ divided housing was available so I could use my quick spool valve.

Sizing a rear mount turbo gets trickier when you run an anti-turbo trans like a 6sp.
Old 06-16-2009 | 03:02 PM
  #14  
Frost's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,913
Likes: 2
From: Richmond VA
Default

Originally Posted by Zombie
I have a 3900lb car that traps 136mph through a TH400 on 15psi with a 5000+ DA and is horribly inefficient (2.25"-2.5" IC Piping). Anyone is welcome to copy it. It's a **** ton of fun to drive on the street, haven't lost to a liter bike on the highway in a long long time.

With a 408 I'd step up to something like GT47-88 myself as long as a 1.0+ divided housing was available so I could use my quick spool valve.

Sizing a rear mount turbo gets trickier when you run an anti-turbo trans like a 6sp.

It's not a rear mount I don't think, AFAIK he told me he had (or could use?) one of John Pham's front mount kits.
Old 06-16-2009 | 03:07 PM
  #15  
Zombie's Avatar
10 Second Club

iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 4
From: Las Vegas
Default

Originally Posted by Frost
It's not a rear mount I don't think, AFAIK he told me he had (or could use?) one of John Pham's front mount kits.
Even better then! I just saw DR Turbo post and thought it had been stated. As a front mount I'd definately do a 47-88, good street turbo.

Last edited by Zombie; 06-16-2009 at 04:23 PM.
Old 06-16-2009 | 03:58 PM
  #16  
cellulis44's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default

yea steve 3+3 IS 7 lol

spot on its a Pham kit (under the K, tubular manifolds). really still a nice kit for an unlowered car.

I'm leaving the 317's bone stock... either way a 408 is going to move air like a 400+ cube motor. a guy on here offered his pt88... so that what I'm going with.

need to find a buyer for this tc78 and I'll be on the horn with you steve.
Old 06-17-2009 | 11:47 AM
  #17  
99Z28LS1's Avatar
TECH Fanatic

iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,886
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio
Default

you're on the right path!

I will prob be ditching my TC78 with my 370 for an turbo above 85mm



Quick Reply: TC78 and 408cui build



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 AM.