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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Hey Moe,

I honestly don't know. It should make more than the previous setup at the same boost levels. I think that you will make the number in tq, but anything I predict about how it would act up top would be a guess to be honest. My gut tells me that the exhaust housing and those cubes may not be a match made in heaven. Having the most free flowing exhaust would be a plus and would help it out up there.

I'm interested to hear how it will turn out.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by moehorsepower
Gotcha, Frost do you think I will hit my mark of 750-800 Rwhp with my set up? as follows: Remember that it made 648 RWHP on Pump with 12 lbs and 722 RWHP with the fast gas at 14lbs

Engine: 383 LT4
Heads: LT4 Ported
Intake: LT4
T/B: 58mm
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Cam: 23X-23X/ 588-588 on a 114 LSA.
Tranny: M63
T-76 with a T4 flange and a .96 AR
The only problem I see is that cam looks a little big for that turbo. Something around 218~220 @.050'' might be a better match unless you plan on a larger turbo in the near future.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mike13
I'm confused What makes a TC76? Also modular turbo calls it a MC76? Is it a good turbo for 600rwhp?
Go to the Turbonetics website. Go to the HP76 turbo. That's a "T76" with the regular "S Series" compressor cover. They even have a compressor map for that turbo...that's the "standard" T76 Turbonetics turbo. Turbonetics calls it the HP76....not T76...but it's the same thing.

Now take that HP76 turbo and remove the S series compressor cover and the backing plate. Machine a custom backing plate and add the smaller 60 series compressor cover....now it's a "TC76" turbo. Still has the HP76 guts in it.

TC76 is just an HP76 with a smaller 60 series compressor cover for packaging.

Now to add confusion...you can take a HP76 turbo...take off the standard S series compressor cover and add the larger race GTM Compressor cover for even more power....but it's a biggg cover and needs plenty of clearance.

GTM Race Cover 76 turbo > HP76 turbo > TC76 turbo
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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^ That is one of the more helpful posts I've seen regarding this.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stock48
The only problem I see is that cam looks a little big for that turbo. Something around 218~220 @.050'' might be a better match unless you plan on a larger turbo in the near future.
I almost went with a cam in that range but I feared that it would max out at around 5000 or so. My supercharger setup had a 230-244/602-612 cam and pulled to app 5800..




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Hey Moe,

I honestly don't know. It should make more than the previous setup at the same boost levels. I think that you will make the number in tq, but anything I predict about how it would act up top would be a guess to be honest. My gut tells me that the exhaust housing and those cubes may not be a match made in heaven. Having the most free flowing exhaust would be a plus and would help it out up there.

I'm interested to hear how it will turn out.
I will surely let you know. got 8 pistons in the hole so far. Have a long way to go..Changing out the K-member, New wiring Harness,ect and not knowing what surprises I will run into on the install....
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by onfire
Go to the Turbonetics website. Go to the HP76 turbo. That's a "T76" with the regular "S Series" compressor cover. They even have a compressor map for that turbo...that's the "standard" T76 Turbonetics turbo. Turbonetics calls it the HP76....not T76...but it's the same thing.

Now take that HP76 turbo and remove the S series compressor cover and the backing plate. Machine a custom backing plate and add the smaller 60 series compressor cover....now it's a "TC76" turbo. Still has the HP76 guts in it.

TC76 is just an HP76 with a smaller 60 series compressor cover for packaging.

Now to add confusion...you can take a HP76 turbo...take off the standard S series compressor cover and add the larger race GTM Compressor cover for even more power....but it's a biggg cover and needs plenty of clearance.

GTM Race Cover 76 turbo > HP76 turbo > TC76 turbo
What kind of power potential does the TC76 have?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mike13
What kind of power potential does the TC76 have?
Some claim to have put down just over 700rwhp on a rear mounted 347 LS1 with a TC-76. I know of a built awd 5.3L silverado with a front mount kit putting down 680rwhp on a TC-76 @ 14 psi.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by omore001
Some claim to have put down just over 700rwhp on a rear mounted 347 LS1 with a TC-76. I know of a built awd 5.3L silverado with a front mount kit putting down 680rwhp on a TC-76 @ 14 psi.
TJ has made more then that, Also Josh from KYTP, and several others are all in the 700-800rwhp range. I think TJ has made over 800rwhp with his TC unit but I could be wrong.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Yes we have crested 800 to the tires though 22" wheels @20psi. That was with a good bit of back pressure on a 370, so yes it can be done.

We made 655 @14 psi on the same truck on the pump gas tune with the 22" wheels.

We never dyno'd it with the TC78, 1.15 a/r but it traps the same mph now on 15psi as it did before at 19.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
Yes we have crested 800 to the tires though 22" wheels @20psi. That was with a good bit of back pressure on a 370, so yes it can be done.

We made 655 @14 psi on the same truck on the pump gas tune with the 22" wheels.

We never dyno'd it with the TC78, 1.15 a/r but it traps the same mph now on 15psi as it did before at 19.

LOL...new meaning to Fast DUB's
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 06:13 AM
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Well this sounds a little more encouraging, I was getting a little depressed. But I dont think I will make my mark of the 850 RWHP I was hoping for, I might have to settle for hopefully 750 RWHP...Dam!
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by moehorsepower
Well this sounds a little more encouraging, I was getting a little depressed. But I dont think I will make my mark of the 850 RWHP I was hoping for, I might have to settle for hopefully 750 RWHP...Dam!
Well, if you have the space for it, and you can deal with and a little extra lag, you can always look at the Borg Warner units S400 to meet and exceed your 850rwhp goal. I have been stuck between a nicely done TC78 or a BW S400-80/ ST-80 (similarly priced). Hard choosing between more lag with the Borg or quick spool but lower rev limit with the TC. The TC78 is a dream in terms of power output, compact and light, and very affordable, it just doesn't let me spin the motor as high as I intend to. I keep hearing the TC will be peak out start dying out before 6K on my 370. With my 232/240 115lsa cam, I might be forced to deal with some lag on the S400 to be able to spin my set-up as I intended.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by omore001
Well, if you have the space for it, and you can deal with and a little extra lag, you can always look at the Borg Warner units S400 to meet and exceed your 850rwhp goal. I have been stuck between a nicely done TC78 or a BW S400-80/ ST-80 (similarly priced). Hard choosing between more lag with the Borg or quick spool but lower rev limit with the TC. The TC78 is a dream in terms of power output, compact and light, and very affordable, it just doesn't let me spin the motor as high as I intend to. I keep hearing the TC will be peak out start dying out before 6K on my 370. With my 232/240 115lsa cam, I might be forced to deal with some lag on the S400 to be able to spin my set-up as I intended.
Thanks for the info, The only thing is I already have the turbo, and I thought it was going to be a simple swap, Pull the supercharger and install the turbo, But so far its been a major bill, Had to have the motor completely rebuilt, needed a tubular K-member for better clearance, need new fans, and a bunch of parts that the turbo shop ripped me off for ect....
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
Your best bet would be to go to a t78 with a F1 turbine wheel and a 1.15 a/r. A tc78 vs. a t76 would be pretty close. The TC's smaller cover does not flow as well as you bigger cover. If you have room the GTM cover with a 78mm wheel would give you another 100+ hp.
Ok recap. I was mixed up, I thought the TC turbo had the larger cover, and the T series was smaller I currently have the small cover TC76, .96AR, P trim wheel. Im wanting to try the T78, 1.15AR, S, or F1 wheel like you said. Could that swap be worth a couple tenths on a low sec truck?
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Price on GTM cover?
Price on 1.15 ar?
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