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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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I have a stock LQ4 that I'm going turbo with & I'm wondering what you guys are doing to help the lower end hold up to boost? I'm hoping to run 8-12psi. I'm putting some ARP head studs in so would putting ARP main studs &/or ARP connecting rods bolts in be worth it? Or am I better off leaving the bottom end undisturbed? Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Rod bolts and head studs for sure. Everything else will hold a good amount of power with a good tune.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Obviously the more you do to make it stronger the better but if you are just going to be running around 10 pounds, rod bolts, studs, and TUNE, then you'll be set.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Rod bolts.
Why does everyone think that rod bolts are required to make HP? HP has no effect on the rod bolts, besides, the later 6.0s have decent rods/bolts. The only effect on rod bolts is rod weight, piston weight, stroke, rpm, and backpressure. Not hp. Besides, if you do rod bolts, you really need the rods resized.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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You dont need to do head studs or rods bolts for 8-12psi.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Maybe I should clarify on the rod bolts, if you plan on spinning it high then do the rod bolts. I've been running completely stock bottom end, minus cam, for about a year now on 8-10 psi and haven't had any problems. In the end it's all up to you, what gives you the best peace of mind.
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Better hardware = longevity. Which is what the OP wants. At the end it's his choice what he does. He was asking opinions of others so I gave mine. And I stand by what I said.
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I would prob go with the head bolts, or studs if you don't mind spending the $, but Unless you plan on turning past 65-68k I wouldn't mess with the bottom end. Those rods can get wierd when changing the bolts. You could compromise longevity more by changing the bolts then leaving it alone.
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I would prob go with the head bolts, or studs if you don't mind spending the $, but Unless you plan on turning past 65-68k I wouldn't mess with the bottom end. Those rods can get wierd when changing the bolts. You could compromise longevity more by changing the bolts then leaving it alone.
That's what I'm afraid of. I don't want to go in & disturb anything if I don't have to. What about putting in the ARP main studs?

What kind of power can an LQ4 block handle?
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You need to align hone the block if you change the ARP main studs. Probably not required for the power level you want, but I'd do them before I worried about ARP rod bolts. If you aren't hitting high RPM constantly the standard rod bolts will do the job fine.
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If you decide to do the rod bolts, change one at a time. Then the cap will never be off.
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Originally Posted by SirNemesis
You need to align hone the block if you change the ARP main studs. Probably not required for the power level you want, but I'd do them before I worried about ARP rod bolts. If you aren't hitting high RPM constantly the standard rod bolts will do the job fine.
What kind of RPM's are we talking?
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doing them one at a time is almost the only way to do it anyways, you need it bolted down to remove the bolt and the stupid little deal inside the rod as well.

Forgive me for not knowing what its called.

Mine are changed as well, arp2000 and ive been dead worried that i shouldnt have done it. ive got probably 100 miles on it so far, maybe more since the install and start up. Ill be changing the oil in a week before top end tuning is done, so ill check for crap then, but so far so good.
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Originally Posted by TheNorthSideWhiteGuy
That's what I'm afraid of. I don't want to go in & disturb anything if I don't have to. What about putting in the ARP main studs?

What kind of power can an LQ4 block handle?
10.50's in my truck snapps the early style rods in half. Everything else in the engine was in perfict shape. I think the newer HD rods could take a little more.
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10.50's in my truck snapps the early style rods in half. Everything else in the engine was in perfict shape. I think the newer HD rods could take a little more.
Hey Jeritt, it's Tony. Haven't seen you on the site lately. I wanted to tell you I picked up two 05+ 6.0 rotating assemblies that were running, also got a block, another set of 317s and some other goodies. I'm going "budget" 6.0 after the 4.8 blowtorches. When are you gonna be back in california pal? Last time we talked, you were looking at another crank, etc.
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Originally Posted by JAX04
doing them one at a time is almost the only way to do it anyways, you need it bolted down to remove the bolt and the stupid little deal inside the rod as well.

Forgive me for not knowing what its called.

Mine are changed as well, arp2000 and ive been dead worried that i shouldnt have done it. ive got probably 100 miles on it so far, maybe more since the install and start up. Ill be changing the oil in a week before top end tuning is done, so ill check for crap then, but so far so good.
Which rod bolts do I need? Were they part # ARP 234-6301?

EDIT: What is the part number for the ARP head studs as well?

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Originally Posted by TheNorthSideWhiteGuy
Which rod bolts do I need? Were they part # ARP 234-6301?

EDIT: What is the part number for the ARP head studs as well?
Oh damn, lol. I forget, i asked Jon@texasspeed and their are different ones, depending on year.

I have the ones that are different lengths. and some are all equal length, you'll need to figure that out first.

And as far as rodbolts, i really dont remember, give me a second, i have a thread that i started here about this awhile back, its got the number in it i think, ill check...

EDIT: The thread didnt have the part numbers, just a link to the auction where i bought them, but it has been removed.

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