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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gennex
i ran my personal car at 43psi base to try to give the pump a chance. i know hit it with twin 15gal alky injection, so far so good,


did the boosta pump help alot?
Part of the problem at 1200rwhp was that I had a high base pressure combined with the rising rate FPR which put them out of their efficiency range. I'm headed in for final dyno tuning sometime this month so we'll see. The two big pumps with BAPs and lowering the base pressure to 45-50psi should flow 1500rwhp e85 without breaking a sweat.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
Part of the problem at 1200rwhp was that I had a high base pressure combined with the rising rate FPR which put them out of their efficiency range. I'm headed in for final dyno tuning sometime this month so we'll see. The two big pumps with BAPs and lowering the base pressure to 45-50psi should flow 1500rwhp e85 without breaking a sweat.
Just curious as to why you have your base pressure so high? Even 50psi is a high base IMO. Also why the rising rate regulators? Seems that if you ran some 2000cc injectors, you could lower you base pressure, lose the RRR, and flow what you need. No?

If you set it at 40psi, you could run 30lbs boost and only be at 70psi fuel pressure.

I'm sure there is something that I'm missing though since it is apparent that you have experience with making power.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:30 AM
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3 walbros have been proven to be reliable at 1100-1200rwhp on e85 several times, I'd just go that route.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnies
3 walbros have been proven to be reliable at 1100-1200rwhp on e85 several times, I'd just go that route.
Thanks. Im going to go this route, its cost effective and easy.

I had hit 700whp easily on the 2 that are in the tank now on E85. I figure 1 more 900whp wouldnt be an issue.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 07:02 AM
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Would 1 Aeromotive pro fuel pump be sufficient?
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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I have a similar question but regarding a blowthrough app. I currently have one A1000 with a 10 feed & return and a2000 4 port regulator. If I add another A1000 and Y it into the 10 feed line would that be sufficient for 1000 or 1100hp on e85?
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Luke Skyjacker
I have a similar question but regarding a blowthrough app. I currently have one A1000 with a 10 feed & return and a2000 4 port regulator. If I add another A1000 and Y it into the 10 feed line would that be sufficient for 1000 or 1100hp on e85?
From their website-
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Up to 1500 HP for naturally aspirated
Up to 1200 HP for forced air induction.
2 of them should be sufficient. I'd put them in the tank though... otherwise it will sound like a swarm of bees following you... I have an A1000 in my Nova... LOUD.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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A third will easily get u there
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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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one of the 3 walbros ***** during a pull.... not what i would want

I'd take a big external anyday

I have a magnafuel currently, great pump
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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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why not two aeromotive 340 pumps, they are the same size as a walbro and flow a lot more
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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
one of the 3 walbros ***** during a pull.... not what i would want

I'd take a big external anyday

I have a magnafuel currently, great pump
If one breaks.... If im miles away from home... I drive home like nothing is the matter because i have 2 backups. What do you do? I guess while your stranded you'd have plenty of time to think about it...


Aeromotive 340's would be more than i want to pay. Under $100. shipped for a walbro is a deal... i already ordered another one. I have the 2 pumps now run all the time. I might run just 1 and then have the other 2 hooked up to my auxilary output on my Eboost2 to come on at boost.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
If one breaks.... If im miles away from home... I drive home like nothing is the matter because i have 2 backups. What do you do? I guess while your stranded you'd have plenty of time to think about it...
Personally I would rather have it not run at all and strand me then thinking everything is OK and going WOT and finding out after the fact that it wasn't. Then again one of my cars has a big Magnafuel and the other has dual walbros so ignore me. LOL!
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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
If one breaks.... If im miles away from home... I drive home like nothing is the matter because i have 2 backups. What do you do? I guess while your stranded you'd have plenty of time to think about it...


Aeromotive 340's would be more than i want to pay. Under $100. shipped for a walbro is a deal... i already ordered another one. I have the 2 pumps now run all the time. I might run just 1 and then have the other 2 hooked up to my auxilary output on my Eboost2 to come on at boost.
Point is; you won't have any way of knowing one or more pumps is bad before you torch your engine. Big power on e85 and 3 or more small pumps is asking for trouble. I can guarantee you when you have to pull your engine because you blew a ringland or worse, you'll wish you would have spend the extra couple hundred for the right pump up front.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Same thing will happen if you go stand on it and you big pump goes out, you'll torch the motor.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnies
Same thing will happen if you go stand on it and you big pump goes out, you'll torch the motor.
The big difference is you will most likely know something is wrong beforehand and the likely hood of it going out in the middle of a pull is pretty damn small compared to the alternative.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NicD
The big difference is you will most likely know something is wrong beforehand and the likely hood of it going out in the middle of a pull is pretty damn small compared to the alternative.
I agree, but I think the likely hood of a walbro(real one not a knock off) dying is small compared to the big race pumps.

If someone is really that worried they could run a FPSS to either drop all boost or set off a warning light or hell even shut down the car, that is with EITHER setup.
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I was getting at exactly what 93form and NicD said

You will not know you have a problem with one of the pumps until you load it and have a lean condition

With the big pump you have a better chance of knowing something and if it just ***** completely which seems typical... no harm done
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
one of the 3 walbros ***** during a pull.... not what i would want

I'd take a big external anyday

I have a magnafuel currently, great pump
exactly, i had the twin and triple setup, what happens is the rubber line would decay and have plenty of fuel until high boost, then the line would break and pressure would drop, i killed a motor by going lean like that, if one pump dies off, the car will fall on its face.
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I am not saying multiple pumps don't work but it seems like a time bomb to me personally...... maybe not as bad as having a rotary under the hood but still
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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I know a guy making 1150rwhp on e85 with an Aeromotive Pro series pump. Has anyone gone this direction? He runs it on full all the time
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