Which meth system and why?
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Staging Lane
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Which meth system and why? I'm going to install a A&A s/c on my 2000 C5 this winter. I'm targeting less than 600rwph and around 10psi boost. I'm still considering e85, but if that doesn't pan out, I'll do meth injection. What meth injection system would you recommend and why?
Devils Own 5151 LS1-7 Stage 2 "Components are engineered to withstand 100% mixtures for normal expected life of product"
$400
http://www.alcohol-injection.com/ls1-7-stage-2-49.html
Devils Own 5106 DVC-30 Stage 2 "Components are engineered to withstand 100% mixtures for normal expected life of product"
$375
http://www.alcohol-injection.com/dvc...age-2-305.html
Snow 20010 Stage 2 Corvette Boost Cooler "all components of Snow Performance systems are designed to be able to handle pure methanol"
$423
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=57
Snow 20012 Stage 2 Corvette GM MAF Boost Cooler "all components of Snow Performance systems are designed to be able to handle pure methanol"
$433
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=55
Alky Control AC-C5 Kit "A progressive system designed once again for 100% methanol"
$600
http://www.alkycontrol.com/
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...hol%20Kit.html
AEM Water/Meth Injection Kit Corvette 97-04 "Alcohol Compatible, up to 50% in solution with water"
$374
http://www.racingsolutions.com/Templ...077&SearchYN=N
What model of Coolingmist?
Coolingmist ???
$???
http://www.coolingmist.com/pagedispl...ey=gasvehicles
Devils Own 5151 LS1-7 Stage 2 "Components are engineered to withstand 100% mixtures for normal expected life of product"
$400
http://www.alcohol-injection.com/ls1-7-stage-2-49.html
Devils Own 5106 DVC-30 Stage 2 "Components are engineered to withstand 100% mixtures for normal expected life of product"
$375
http://www.alcohol-injection.com/dvc...age-2-305.html
Snow 20010 Stage 2 Corvette Boost Cooler "all components of Snow Performance systems are designed to be able to handle pure methanol"
$423
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=57
Snow 20012 Stage 2 Corvette GM MAF Boost Cooler "all components of Snow Performance systems are designed to be able to handle pure methanol"
$433
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=55
Alky Control AC-C5 Kit "A progressive system designed once again for 100% methanol"
$600
http://www.alkycontrol.com/
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...hol%20Kit.html
AEM Water/Meth Injection Kit Corvette 97-04 "Alcohol Compatible, up to 50% in solution with water"
$374
http://www.racingsolutions.com/Templ...077&SearchYN=N
What model of Coolingmist?
Coolingmist ???
$???
http://www.coolingmist.com/pagedispl...ey=gasvehicles
Last edited by tb30570; Jul 24, 2011 at 09:18 PM.
I have run my fair share of different kits. Not all of them, but more then most people from the days that we built them ourselves for turbo buicks. I run devils own now. Ive found no down sides, had no failures over many kits now. Hell tailor the kit to your needs, and most importantly do the right thing in the light of business.
The system all function pretty similar, devils controller is small and easy to find a spot for too. Then theres price.
The system all function pretty similar, devils controller is small and easy to find a spot for too. Then theres price.
I got a AEM water/meth kit on my SS..have been running it for a few months now...it cuts on at the predetermined boost level it was set to cut on at..everything works ..no issues...400 bucks and it comes with everything you need except the dyno tuning
I have an Alky Control kit and run 100% methanol and have had no issues. I like it because it comes with all braided lines and a pump that is designed to run 100% meth. You get what you pay for IMO
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Staging Lane
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does the Alky have any other features the other brands don't?
Last edited by tb30570; Jul 23, 2011 at 05:49 PM.
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is it true you can't run 100% meth with an AEM system?
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can you run de-icer in a meth injection system?
Isopropyl Alcohol 5-15%
Ethyl Alcohol 70-95%
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...s/en/US/332611
-20 degrees Winter windshield washer fuild
Methanol <33%
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...s/en/US/690800
Source:
http://www.snowperformance.net/faqs_...?type=gasoline
• Boost Juice®: This is the best fluid to use and is Snow Performance’s 49% methanol, 51% water mixture that can be shipped to your door or picked up at a local dealer. (If you are using your washer reservoir as the injection tank, Boost Juice® is a great washer fluid – works as a de-icer!)
• Windshield Washer fluid: Only if it is blue in color and rated for -20 deg F. It should have no special additives. This means it is safe to use and made of about 30% methanol, 70% water. If it is another color or another temperature rating, do not use it.
• You can “spike” your Blue -20 Washer fluid to a 50% mixture by adding 3 12OZ yellow bottles of Heet® gas-line-antifreeze to every gallon of washer fluid.
• Mix your own: You just need to make sure the methanol is “neat” and contains no lubricants or other additives. We recommend a 50% mixture.
• Ethanol: It is not as good as methanol, but it can be used as a 2nd best option if you can’t find methanol. It can also be mixed with water up to 50%.
• Do NOT use E85 or any other fluid with gasoline mixed in. It will destroy the fluid delivery part of your Boost Cooler® and instantly void the warranty.
• Isopropyl/Denatured Alcohols: These can be used, but are not as good as methanol. They have a lower BTU, or energy content, and a lower latent heat of vaporization (fancy way of saying how much heat they absorb) as well as a lower octane rating compared to methanol.
Isopropyl Alcohol 5-15%
Ethyl Alcohol 70-95%
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...s/en/US/332611
-20 degrees Winter windshield washer fuild
Methanol <33%
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...s/en/US/690800
Source:
http://www.snowperformance.net/faqs_...?type=gasoline
• Boost Juice®: This is the best fluid to use and is Snow Performance’s 49% methanol, 51% water mixture that can be shipped to your door or picked up at a local dealer. (If you are using your washer reservoir as the injection tank, Boost Juice® is a great washer fluid – works as a de-icer!)
• Windshield Washer fluid: Only if it is blue in color and rated for -20 deg F. It should have no special additives. This means it is safe to use and made of about 30% methanol, 70% water. If it is another color or another temperature rating, do not use it.
• You can “spike” your Blue -20 Washer fluid to a 50% mixture by adding 3 12OZ yellow bottles of Heet® gas-line-antifreeze to every gallon of washer fluid.
• Mix your own: You just need to make sure the methanol is “neat” and contains no lubricants or other additives. We recommend a 50% mixture.
• Ethanol: It is not as good as methanol, but it can be used as a 2nd best option if you can’t find methanol. It can also be mixed with water up to 50%.
• Do NOT use E85 or any other fluid with gasoline mixed in. It will destroy the fluid delivery part of your Boost Cooler® and instantly void the warranty.
• Isopropyl/Denatured Alcohols: These can be used, but are not as good as methanol. They have a lower BTU, or energy content, and a lower latent heat of vaporization (fancy way of saying how much heat they absorb) as well as a lower octane rating compared to methanol.
Last edited by tb30570; Jul 24, 2011 at 09:12 PM.
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From: Stockton CA,
can you run de-icer in a meth injection system?
Isopropyl Alcohol 5-15%
Ethyl Alcohol 70-95%
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...s/en/US/332611
Isopropyl Alcohol 5-15%
Ethyl Alcohol 70-95%
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...s/en/US/332611
and I got alot of people that come get washer fluid for there meth kit but I heard some people dont like to run it cuz your never really sure whats in it.
Last edited by maro69camaro; Jul 23, 2011 at 06:24 PM.
I'm curious about this as well. Ideally I'd like something that is progressive with boost pressure, which shouldn't be an issue with a prochrager setup since the boost is linear with rpm.
I plan to run 50/50 water/methanol for the cooling properties of water. I have access to good 93 octane, so the added octane from the methanol is nice, but not as critical as those with only 91 octane available.
I'd also like to use my windsheild washer tank as a resevoir. It's already mounted, and easy to access and hold about 2 gallons I think. Plenty of volume for my amount of driving.
I plan to run 50/50 water/methanol for the cooling properties of water. I have access to good 93 octane, so the added octane from the methanol is nice, but not as critical as those with only 91 octane available.
I'd also like to use my windsheild washer tank as a resevoir. It's already mounted, and easy to access and hold about 2 gallons I think. Plenty of volume for my amount of driving.