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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Stealth, it's all right here, I thought you had posted a few times on the https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147921
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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I get an error when I try that link. Is it the old thread I referred to?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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stealth...his car or the car in question is the vette with twin t66's

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/147921-c5-dyno-408ci-twin-t66-aem-ems.html
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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OK, but I've got a carburated RM BBC motor that makes more power than that on an engine dyno (joking).
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MYTURBOT/A
I`ve heard that the 03 cobras snap rods if you go to far over 550rwhp.
Not true.

...and X2C Motorsports has the record for most rwhp on a stock '03 Cobra motor at 830rwhp with a T-88. They believe there is more power to find.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MYTURBOT/A
I`ve heard that the 03 cobras snap rods if you go to far over 550rwhp.
Not true.

...and X2C Motorsports has the record for most rwhp on a stock '03 Cobra motor at 830rwhp with a T-88. They believe there is more power to find.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
Not true.

...and X2C Motorsports has the record for most rwhp on a stock '03 Cobra motor at 830rwhp with a T-88. They believe there is more power to find.
Thats pretty impressive... Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a forged internals motor to begin with? They probably have quite a bit more in it if they can get the flow.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth
OK, but I've got a carburated RM BBC motor that makes more power than that on an engine dyno (joking).
I've tried engine dyno's before, they don't handle too well...
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Yeah, they come with manley h-beam rods and a whole slew of other cool things from the factory heh....
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Yeah, they come with manley h-beam rods and a whole slew of other cool things from the factory heh....
I guess for the $6k price premium over even the Mach you'd expect parts like that...

I didn't realize they cost THAT much.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cr133r
I've tried engine dyno's before, they don't handle too well...
And they don't hookup worth a damn.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cr133r
I guess for the $6k price premium over even the Mach you'd expect parts like that...

I didn't realize they cost THAT much.
6K to put in the R&D to design a blower manifold, get the stock tune down nicely, put in the heat exchanger and all lines, develop a whole new intake and exhaust system, put in forged 8.5:1 pistons, manley H-beams, an iron block, a T56 6-speed, an IRS with 3.55's, a MUCH better fuel system, as well as some other stuff. When you add up all the stuff different from a Mach 1, the 6K more doesn't seem too outrageous. Besides, if you buy a Mach 1 there is no way you're going to build a forged motor as strong as the 03 cobra motor as well as the fuel system, a tune, AND a power adder for 6 grand.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Instead of, or in addition to, LS1 Shootouts, we should arrange Shootouts involving Mustangs, Cobras, LS1, LT1, SBC, etc. These cars have been racing each other since 1966?. Kinda like National Muscle Car stuff. Much more interesting and fun.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwins
6K to put in the R&D to design a blower manifold, get the stock tune down nicely, put in the heat exchanger and all lines, develop a whole new intake and exhaust system, put in forged 8.5:1 pistons, manley H-beams, an iron block, a T56 6-speed, an IRS with 3.55's, a MUCH better fuel system, as well as some other stuff. When you add up all the stuff different from a Mach 1, the 6K more doesn't seem too outrageous. Besides, if you buy a Mach 1 there is no way you're going to build a forged motor as strong as the 03 cobra motor as well as the fuel system, a tune, AND a power adder for 6 grand.
And to think, it still dates back to a Ford Fairmont chassis... Hmmm

Just pushing your buttons on this one bud... Seriously though, its worth the 6k for all the upgrades, I just would have never though I'd EVER see a Mustang that cost over 30k without Saleen/Roush stickers all over it.

PS I've owned 3 Mustangs, 1 Camaro, 1 Supra and a ZR-1 along the way, I don't dislike any of em...
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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lol, if the ls1/lt1 guys invited the mustangs, give the same rules and race weights, i bet the top ls1 cars would have a hard time even QUALIFYING. just check out FFW or NMRA times. hell their drag radial guys are running 8.50s and lower!
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Back to the question of LS1 power, for $11,000, you can buy an 800 hp carburated 427ci SBC. Just out of curiousity, what's the highest n/a LS1 or C5R horsepower and what would that motor cost?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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I keep hearing about all these 1000+ hp street cars (supras..skylines...) but they just never seem to be seen or running anywhere except the internet.

BTW, my friend just blew up his 800rwhp street supra after only putting 1k miles on it with that power level. I think all this talk about 1200hp stock motors is just pure exaggeration or wishful thinking. It takes a ton of care and feeding to keep a little CI motor making that kind of power.

I'm going to go to the Supra Nationals this weekend and see for myself. No disrespect to the Supras (they are cool cars), but I just don’t buy the 1000hp on stock motor BS. I’m not even sure that you can really run a 1000+ hp car on the street as a daily driver.

BTW, I can’t wait to see the TT ls1 run!
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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is it weird? 6 cylinder engine can produce more power than an 8 cylinder engine.

if money is not an object, then which engine can produce the most power. Ford 4.6 or GM LS1 or supra 6 cylinder or skyline???

how could a small engine produce more power than big engine??? supra 6 cylinder can produce over 1000 HP just as the LS1 cars did.
is it because it has twin cam and 4 valves per cylinder? higher tech?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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why is it a 500rwhp supra still runs 12's?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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i just saw myself a 918 rwhp 970 rwtq stock internal supra (bottom end) on a dynojet dyno 3 days ago at NMRA in FL. they do exist. 99.9% of them are dreamers. that 0.1% is for real. anyways back on topic. the LS1 hasnt made the power because of hte cost to get INTO blower power and also keeping the heads BOLTED onto the block is just now being learned.
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