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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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the flexlite fans may not be the best in your situation. They may have enough power to pull the air in but getting that hot air out is the key. The main things you need to have is good moving air in and great air moving out. Then the right amount of coolant flow, not too fast, not too slow.

I would try to figure out a way to get the hot air out, then just cut out the center part of the 160 thermostat. Fill the engine with water via where the upper radiator hose connects to the radiator. Then fill the radiator, then quickly connect the upper radiator hose to the radiator with out losing any water.

Then you need to have a good working recovery system. That way the cooling system can pull n any coolant it needs or spit out any that it don't need....
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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ok so my thermostat is good i was hoping for a bad thermo.. crap.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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No air in the system like we mentioned??
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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No air in the system like we mentioned??
i bought an inline radiator filler thing... gonna fill with that. that will assure no air.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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I did just next day air one of those no spill funnels to me... thanks a lot for the video, that thing is awesome. i am going to donate it to my friends shop after i am done with it.
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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OK I installed the inline filler neck used the no spill funnel to fill it. bad news... it still overheats. someone asked if it overheats with the hood open, answer is no.
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Where are you getting power from to power your fans?
You should be running one relay per fan and the power source coming off the alternator.

Does it take a long time to over heat or short time? Does it get hot quicker when your driving it hard?

Does it over heat when just driving normal and crusing?

How long from the time of start up till it gets over 190 degrees?

Are you sure you got the water pump going the right direction?

Any chance of some kind of blockage in your radiator/hoses/block?

Are you having the ecu turning on the fans or you turning on via a toggle switch?

Who did the tune?
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypaul
Where are you getting power from to power your fans?
You should be running one relay per fan and the power source coming off the alternator.
I am using factory relays and wires

Does it take a long time to over heat or short time? Does it get hot quicker when your driving it hard?
Yeah it takes a bit to heat up, when i drive it hard it heats up FAST

Does it over heat when just driving normal and crusing?
sometimes, yeah, traffic is real bad

How long from the time of start up till it gets over 190 degrees?
few minutes maybe? whatever is normal

Are you sure you got the water pump going the right direction?
no, i am not, the thermostat side goes to the bottom of the radiator, and the other side goes to the top.... is this right?
Any chance of some kind of blockage in your radiator/hoses/block?
no chance.
Are you having the ecu turning on the fans or you turning on via a toggle switch?
computer controlled

Who did the tune?
the tune is solid, no worries there. was done by a buddy who tunes for a living.

answers are in red
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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I run those flex a lite 420 pullers and my car sits at 180-190. I had to burp the system really good but was fine. Also check your wiring because I had one pushing gig and the other pulling at first. Switched the wires around on the one fan and all was well. Make sure your shroud is tight into the radiator. A good seal will channel that air through the rad.

Also my pipes are swaintech coated and wrapped along with having a vented hood. They help but even before I had the hood or the wrap I wasn't heading up bad. Hold a paper towel in front of the rad to see if the pullers are forcing the towel to suck to the front of the rad.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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See how I have an angle piece of aluminum? It makes a nice tight contact for the fan to the rad.


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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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mine is pretty much the same exact way. i used angled aluminum and attached it, also added another bung for the steam tube just like you did.

can i see a picture of under the hood?
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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is there a way you can take a pic of your belt routing?
are you sure the water pump is good?




Can you try to wire your fans to come on with a toogle switch and relay and not the ecu?

cut a carboard box (strong/heavy duty) to a 12"x12" square. Stick it in the middle of your radiator on the other side of the fans- and turn on the fans and see if the fans can hold up the cardboard square in the center of the radiator.

If it wont up stay against your radiator the fans are not pulling enough. Hopefully you understand what Im describing...

Also while you have a toggle switch (w/relay) hooked up try driving the car with it on all the time. As soon as you see the engine temp about 100 degrees turn them on.

I dont want to knock your tuner at all, but sometimes its not bad idea to get a second set of eyes to see the tune. When all the mechanical parts seem to be working be working, it doesnt hurt to look at the computer side.

I had the same thing happen to me. My car was running hot after driving it 20 minutes or so, the temp would never come down even going down the highway at 60mph when the fans are not needed. If I drove it hard the temp shot up fast, come to find out I somehow changed my tooth angle degrees (it was 79 should be 80 ) in my tune without knowing it. Changed it and it has been fine ever since, but I spent countless hours messing with everything else....
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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I am sure the water pump is good, i did a flow test on the cooling system

i cant take a pic of the belt routing too easily, but the belt routing is correct, i confirmed that, the pump is turning the same way as my friends factory car

the cardboard is easily held up by the fans...

i have manually turned the fans on before, it does not seem to help

tooth angle degrees? never heard of that.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by brianfromhawaii
I am sure the water pump is good, i did a flow test on the cooling system

i cant take a pic of the belt routing too easily, but the belt routing is correct, i confirmed that, the pump is turning the same way as my friends factory car

the cardboard is easily held up by the fans...

i have manually turned the fans on before, it does not seem to help

tooth angle degrees? never heard of that.
Its gotta be in the tune then... do you have a wideband hooked up? It could be timing or going lean.
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypaul
Its gotta be in the tune then... do you have a wideband hooked up? It could be timing or going lean.
wide band is hooked up, 14.7 all day unless in PE, then 12:1
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Originally Posted by brianfromhawaii
mine is pretty much the same exact way. i used angled aluminum and attached it, also added another bung for the steam tube just like you did.

can i see a picture of under the hood?



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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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thanks man, i dont get it, you and i have the same fans, and the same radiator, in very similar locations, mine is just tilted a bit... wtf
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by brianfromhawaii
OK I installed the inline filler neck used the no spill funnel to fill it. bad news... it still overheats. someone asked if it overheats with the hood open, answer is no.
you need better air flow. U had a 180* and it ran at 200*. I bet the 160* runs at 180*
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