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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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I get a lot of people in the shop asking about similar issues.

Before you restrict any turbo...ensure that the oil drain is correct sizing(T4 turbos-10 at least- T6 turbos -12 at least). Once your sizing is good...then you need to look at the drain line itself. It needs to flow like how a water slide would.... no high spots...all smooth shot from turbo into pan or return area. If all of those stars align,...and you have a smoking turbo...then I would look POSSIBLY into a restrictor.
a -4 feed line on a T4 should flow the same as a -4 feed line on a T6 so a -10 drain should be adequate for either, no?
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
a -4 feed line on a T4 should flow the same as a -4 feed line on a T6 so a -10 drain should be adequate for either, no?
Depends on the sizes of the galleries inside the turbo.

Whilst you're providing it with -4, that doesnt mean the internal oilways are exactly that.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Largest possible drain is wanted...in my experience anyways. General rule...for what I would recommend anyways which, is just an opinion. T3/T4 I would use -3 feed/-10drain and T6 -4 feed/-12 drain.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
Largest possible drain is wanted...in my experience anyways. General rule...for what I would recommend anyways which, is just an opinion. T3/T4 I would use -3 feed/-10drain and T6 -4 feed/-12 drain.
Does RPS sell a -12 drain kit? If I'm gonna do it it's going to be before the motor goes in.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Does RPS sell a -12 drain kit? If I'm gonna do it it's going to be before the motor goes in.

Just buy the fittings and measure for the hose.. You'll save yourself some money. There is no "cookie cutter" awnser to this problem. The only constant in a gravity drain journal bearing turbo application is to minimize all restriction if possible. The bigger the better.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Does RPS sell a -12 drain kit? If I'm gonna do it it's going to be before the motor goes in.
We do sir.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Just buy the fittings and measure for the hose.. You'll save yourself some money. There is no "cookie cutter" awnser to this problem. The only constant in a gravity drain journal bearing turbo application is to minimize all restriction if possible. The bigger the better.
Pre packaged from RPS is actually cheaper
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Pre packaged from RPS is actually cheaper
Depends where you buy your AN stuff I suppose. My supplier is hard to beat.

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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Pre packaged from RPS is actually cheaper



Originally Posted by oscs
Depends where you buy your AN stuff I suppose. My supplier is hard to beat.

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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
Lmfao rick flair? That was pretty good.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Lmfao rick flair? That was pretty good.
LOL

WOO!

Ever since Eastbound and down came out.....we've been "WOOing" every day lol.

Example? (not work safe) lol

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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
LOL WOO! Ever since Eastbound and down came out.....we've been "WOOing" every day lol. Example? (not work safe) lol Video Link: http://youtu.be/GoWblwKdeHg
Kenny powers is my hero
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
How can you come to that conclusion not knowing what turbo he has? If it's a standard journal bearing turbo than there should be no issue running a 4an and no restrictor.
He said what turbo he had in his OP. And I came to my conclusion because a buddy of mine has that EXACT same turbo, and when he ran unrestricted line, it would blow past the seals and smoke. Put on a 0.060 restrictor and all is well. My turbo was the exact same situation, but mine is a Garrett T6 turbo. 4AN smoked, 0.060 did not.

When it comes down to it though, the "right" way to do it, is to find out what the manufacturer of the turbo wants for oil pressure in the cartridge. And you would restrict down to that pressure for when your setup is at high rpms.
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz
He said what turbo he had in his OP. And I came to my conclusion because a buddy of mine has that EXACT same turbo, and when he ran unrestricted line, it would blow past the seals and smoke. Put on a 0.060 restrictor and all is well. My turbo was the exact same situation, but mine is a Garrett T6 turbo. 4AN smoked, 0.060 did not. When it comes down to it though, the "right" way to do it, is to find out what the manufacturer of the turbo wants for oil pressure in the cartridge. And you would restrict down to that pressure for when your setup is at high rpms.
Right Since all the journal bearing turbo companies I've spoken with clearly state that a restriction voids warranty. Whatever works for you though I guess..
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Right Since all the journal bearing turbo companies I've spoken with clearly state that a restriction voids warranty. Whatever works for you though I guess..
Thanks! Non-smoking turbos work for me!
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Also, for your reference, here is the link to Garrett's website. Which nowhere it states about voiding a warranty.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/faq

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Again, it is imperative that the restrictor be sized according to the oil pressure characteristics of the engine to which the turbo is attached. Always verify that the appropriate oil pressure is reaching the turbo. The use of an oil restrictor can (but not always) help ensure that you have the proper oil flow/pressure entering the turbocharger, as well as extract the maximum performance.

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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz
Also, for your reference, here is the link to Garrett's website. Which nowhere it states about voiding a warranty. http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/faq
Lol @ the first question in the FAQ it's referring to a BALL BEARING turbo. So I wonder what the second question is directed towards?
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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put a .065 restrictor on my magnum 72mm. stopped the smoke
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Lol @ the first question in the FAQ it's referring to a BALL BEARING turbo. So I wonder what the second question is directed towards?
You're right. Good job on not even reading the second part.
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Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz
You're right. Good job on not even reading the second part.
"last ditch effort" is all I needed to see
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