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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:59 PM
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Did you buy the heads or did the previous owner. You might have any where from 10:1 compression up to 11.5:1 compression. Need to know the combustion chamber size to do the math.
Yea the previous owner did all the work.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by conan
Did you buy the heads or did the previous owner. You might have any where from 10:1 compression up to 11.5:1 compression. Need to know the combustion chamber size to do the math.
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Yea the previous owner did all the work.

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-4345-pr...-outright.aspx

These are the heads that are on the car.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fier23

Yea the previous owner did all the work.
May need to pull a head and measure the combustion chamber volume.
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Originally Posted by Fier23
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-4345-pr...-outright.aspx

These are the heads that are on the car.
So if you have the 63cc combustion chambers with a 3.910 gasket bore .054 thickness, you are at 10.8 : 1. With 58cc you get 11.5 : 1 compression. That's on the high side for a stock bottom end. You could still feed it some boost but you'll have to be careful. Meth injection would be a must if your not going to swap heads.

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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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You could also convert over to e85 and not have to worry about meth.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Well I have 1 E85 station about 50min from me so that's out. As for the heads, will they be fine as long as I don't go over 7lbs of boost? I'd rather not pay another $2500 for new heads.
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You could sell those heads and just buy some used 317's. You'd make money in the process.
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You could sell those heads and just buy some used 317's. You'd make money in the process.
So if I buy the 317's can I use my current springs and rockers I have?
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 12:58 AM
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So if I buy the 317's can I use my current springs and rockers I have?
Sorry for not responding about the FMIC.

I would assume yes, though I could be wrong. Would more than likely have to change the push rods for proper length.

While the 2.5 PRC's flow better than stock 317's, remember that in a FI setup it's not that big a deal. Just add another 1-2lbs of boost and you can make the same amount of power. However, with the cash you save from selling the PRC's you could possibly get the 317's ported and leave the combustion chambers alone. Better all around.
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Originally Posted by Fier23

So if I buy the 317's can I use my current springs and rockers I have?
Yes you can. Depending on how many miles the springs have, you may want to have them checked out to make sure they are still within specs.
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So if I buy the 317's can I use my current springs and rockers I have?
You can reuse your rocker arms, but I would leave the springs in the 5.3L heads and sell them as is. Then get yourself a new set of dual springs for the 317's. You alway want a good spring in a forced induction app, valve float can happen easier VS N/A.

You'll also want to get a set of ARP head studs and MLS gaskets if your going to swap them.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 05:34 PM
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So are ALL 317 heads the same or do I need a specific type?
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So are ALL 317 heads the same or do I need a specific type?
317 is the casting number, like 241's and 243's. The 317's are highly desirable in FI setups because the larger combustion chamber lowers compression. You could also used unmilled 241's or 243's, but 317's are your best bet.
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317 is the casting number, like 241's and 243's. The 317's are highly desirable in FI setups because the larger combustion chamber lowers compression. You could also used unmilled 241's or 243's, but 317's are your best bet.
all the 317 head I'm finding say 6.0. Do they need to be 5.3?
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No. The 317's will bolt right on your 5.3.
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No. The 317's will bolt right on your 5.3.
Cool. I was confused cause only a few said 5.3 but all said 6.0. Just didn't want to buy the wrong heads.
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The 317's are for a larger bore than a 5.3, but with work just fine. Also, just as an FYI, the 317 heads flow the same as 243's. They just have larger combustion chambers.
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I don't honestly have a plan on power and boost. I'm so new at it I will just run what is best at first for the car and them mod it out from there. I'm guessing having my stock t56 it won't handle a huge amount but I'm even unsure of that.
With the engines bottom end being stock, I'd just leave your cam and heads alone, add 8 psi of boost, meth injection and a good tune. Bob
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agreed with guy above about keep heads and cam stock, just put in arp head studs maybe, but just cranking up the boost and meth you'll make more than enough power to be fun, I'd guess 600whp or 750hp at the motor should be easily doable?? and meth is a MUST DO imo on any supercharged setup especially one with stock bottom end. its super easy to live with. and FMIC for sure if you can swing it but if I had to choose one get an alky control setup from julio and call it a day. I made 760/700 on my 9.5:! MTI built 402ci LS2 setup with FMIC and meth at 13 psi with terrible local tune that ended up hurting my motor. even driving like an idiot barely go through a can of meth a month or less depending. if you're talking 700rwhp though you'll be on borrowed time on stock bottom end so meth becomes a must just to keep the motor alive. get a good tuner with a good reputation! don't nuke your motor from idiot local tuner like me! 700+whp is a lot and there are more than a few tuners out there who don't have the experience to deal with these motors at that level on pump gas.

you can have the tuner do the tune so that when/if IATs get too high from being out of meth or meth pump fails that the tune just pulls all the timing and motor falls flat on its face so you don't have any issues if you run out or something happens, nice fail safe.
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