QMP turbo kit?
Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
Okay, Scott. First of all, I sold you the motor you bought and advertised it EXACTLY as you purchased. I CLEARLY stated that it "DOES NOT INCLUDE VALVETRAIN, i.e. rockers and pushrods". If you can't remember that, use the search feature on this site and find the original Ad when I posted it for sale. But don't blame your poor memory on me. Perhaps you couldn't remember since you didn't check the motor out until nearly a year AFTER you received it?
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03-05-2003, 10:57 PM #1
Rob Raymer
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This motor is the same one in our Project Z28 you are all familiar with. It has less than 40 miles on it, and has never been raced. It has the best of everything, and is turbo ready.
Due to a new max cubic inch limitation in the Outlaw Street Car Association race that we participate in, we cannot use this engine. It was built last year by Agostino Racing Engines in Canada, and has only been started and driven up and down the street a few times. We just installed the Fel-Pro system 2 weeks ago, and have yet to even do any tuning on the engine since finding out the new rules.
This engine is an 8.5:1 6.0 ltr iron block, with a Lunati Pro Billet stroker crank, Pro Billet Rods, Ross FI Pistons, custom grind 589/612 lift Hyd Roller cam, Stage 3 heads, 1/2 studs, custom head work (additional aluminum welding for boost support), double o-ringed block, ATI SFI damper, etc, etc. As I said, this engine is basically BRAND NEW.
Without a core, this combination would sell for nearly $16,000 from ARE. I will take $10,500 delivered in the US48, for the complete Long Block (no intake, ignition, or fueling included).
If you plan on building a forced induction motor....it doesn't get any better than this.
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'98 Formula, QMP Single Turbo Kit, max 792rwhp/910rwtq.
10.17 @ 138 w/1.47 60ft @ 720rwhp setting, log manifold w/T76 on-center turbo, stock unported passenger manifold, stock unported heads w/o-rings, stock ls1 intake, stock TB, stock cam, stock crank, 8.25:1 compression, stock gears, stock M6 trans, stock front shocks, stock TQ Arm, full weight 3840lbs raceweight...10.17 first trip to the track.
Rob Raymer
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Charlestown, Indiana
Posts: 910 404ci Agostino Racing Engine For Sale
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This motor is the same one in our Project Z28 you are all familiar with. It has less than 40 miles on it, and has never been raced. It has the best of everything, and is turbo ready.
Due to a new max cubic inch limitation in the Outlaw Street Car Association race that we participate in, we cannot use this engine. It was built last year by Agostino Racing Engines in Canada, and has only been started and driven up and down the street a few times. We just installed the Fel-Pro system 2 weeks ago, and have yet to even do any tuning on the engine since finding out the new rules.
This engine is an 8.5:1 6.0 ltr iron block, with a Lunati Pro Billet stroker crank, Pro Billet Rods, Ross FI Pistons, custom grind 589/612 lift Hyd Roller cam, Stage 3 heads, 1/2 studs, custom head work (additional aluminum welding for boost support), double o-ringed block, ATI SFI damper, etc, etc. As I said, this engine is basically BRAND NEW.
Without a core, this combination would sell for nearly $16,000 from ARE. I will take $10,500 delivered in the US48, for the complete Long Block (no intake, ignition, or fueling included).
If you plan on building a forced induction motor....it doesn't get any better than this.
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'98 Formula, QMP Single Turbo Kit, max 792rwhp/910rwtq.
10.17 @ 138 w/1.47 60ft @ 720rwhp setting, log manifold w/T76 on-center turbo, stock unported passenger manifold, stock unported heads w/o-rings, stock ls1 intake, stock TB, stock cam, stock crank, 8.25:1 compression, stock gears, stock M6 trans, stock front shocks, stock TQ Arm, full weight 3840lbs raceweight...10.17 first trip to the track.
Answer: Because it's not as easy as eveyone thinks.
This FI stuff is damn hard to get running correctly....So whens the Formula going to make a track run again Rob? 
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Why doesn't ATI or Vortech get this kind of bashing? After all, I haven't seen anyone just throw on one of those kits on and lay down a number. Hell, PSJ's car made one semi-impressive "unlocked 400 turbo" number, and we've never heard anything else about it. We're over half way through the race season and it STILL hasn't made a pass!
And where's Harlan?? That car was "finished" last year, has the best of everything, tubular twin turbo headers, GM tuning ability, etc, etc,. and it's only been to the track once that I know of! And we still haven't seen his dyno graph posted. Why hasn't he outran my time if our kit is so bad???
And where's Harlan?? That car was "finished" last year, has the best of everything, tubular twin turbo headers, GM tuning ability, etc, etc,. and it's only been to the track once that I know of! And we still haven't seen his dyno graph posted. Why hasn't he outran my time if our kit is so bad???
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Well, I honestly thought that I had posted that it didn't include rockers and pushrods. I am obviously wrong. I would therefore be more than happy to ship those out to Scott Monday if he still wants them.
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Warbird, why can you never mind your own business? If your car ran half as fast as your mouth you'd be at the top of Boosted List instead of the bottom. 
FWIW, this could have just as easily been handled the same way by Scott. I told him when we talked on teh phone that I posted it without valvetrain, and he said "oh, okay". End of subject.
FWIW, this could have just as easily been handled the same way by Scott. I told him when we talked on teh phone that I posted it without valvetrain, and he said "oh, okay". End of subject.
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Rob do you sell the FAST system for a turbo buick? I have a friend wanting to buy one. Also, do you know the hp limit of the GN block....he is thinking of buying a stage II block but i keep telling him that he can run nines with the stock block. Am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
No personal attacks or threats.
And just like I said, you never once bothered to say anything about it
UNTIL AFTER I RESPONDED. Even though we KNOW you were reading along since you already posted on page 1.....
Oh well...at least I'm not PAYING to get attacked here anymore....
There are no comments about your personal appearance, just negative or constructive comments about your products or tuning. I'll explain it to you in great detail tomorrow, why don't you pit next to me and Harlan so we can go over it between rounds on the track.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
There are no comments about your personal appearance, just negative or constructive comments about your products or tuning. I'll explain it to you in great detail tomorrow, why don't you pit next to me and Harlan so we can go over it between rounds on the track.
And I guess telling people that I "don't know how to tune, and damage engines" isn't a personal attack??? WTF?? Especially when the person accusing me hurting his engine by not knowing how to tune didn't even have me tune his car!!
PSJ, you're a joke. Which I guess is why you have the "unkown comedian" as your avatar....
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have to side with ROb getting bashed a lot on here and then the threads get closed before he can reply or just after his attackers reply back after starting it so they always seem to get the last word.
PSJ Have you made any passes yet?Numbers look very good.
Brian said his piece, you have said yours, the facts are all laid out. I'm not a fan of mail order tunes either. Seems like the ball is in Brian's court to provied more information showing that he did not get a bad mail-tune.
As far as your funny comments, just come out to tomorrow, pit next to me and Harlan, and we can take the time to have a conversation on this stuff and try to turn a corner.
As far as your funny comments, just come out to tomorrow, pit next to me and Harlan, and we can take the time to have a conversation on this stuff and try to turn a corner.
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One more thing PSJ...whatever you do DONT LOCK THAT T400!!!
The LS1 world isn't mentally ready to handle the mindblowing power you'll make then...
BTW, who'd you hire to drive your car for you this time?
The LS1 world isn't mentally ready to handle the mindblowing power you'll make then...
BTW, who'd you hire to drive your car for you this time?