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Old May 10, 2016 | 07:17 AM
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Great thread. I need this info for when I swap out my Walbro 255lph external for a Bosch.
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Old May 10, 2016 | 08:49 AM
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This has been way more helpful than I thought. Was afraid I wouldn't get any answers. Seems at this point incannotnfind a reason not to do a turbo setup after my shop is done being built. 22000$ in it so far, just for slab and steel. Once it is up and the lift is installed, I'll be ready to knock out as many customer cars as possible and then jump on my own projects while I can.

That AEM has me excited to know I won't need a ton of cash for fuel system.
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Old May 10, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 94heritage
I have been running the bosch 044 copy for over three years now and its from here in the states. I believe its made in Texas. PEFP is the company. And i paid less than 100 bucks. So far on stock truck rails and 13 psi on the dyno the car made 535hp with deka 80s on 60% dc.
Do you happen to have a part # for this pump? Or what application to ask for at the counter to try and find it?
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Old May 10, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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So it is looking like 300-350$ for the deka 80 injectors. Not sure if it is even possible to go cheaper and still have a reliable set. That's better than the 450 or so I usually see.

I wonder how far the stock E85 injectors can push on a mild setup from a 07-14 truck? They are 54lbs. I know they are 110$ new and if using the stock truck 07-14 intake and fuel rails, they are a direct fit.
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Old May 10, 2016 | 04:52 PM
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You can make 600 wheel on 54 lb injectors. Anymore than that and you might need a 2nd pump to raise pressure without losing too much flow.
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Old May 10, 2016 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo_bu
Do you happen to have a part # for this pump? Or what application to ask for at the counter to try and find it?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/331191611953. Heres a link to that pump and their part number is shown in the pictures.
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Old May 10, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Thanks for the data!
I can put off buying those 80lbers for a little while....
I've got the truck flex fuel setup and that AEM 50-1005.....
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Old May 10, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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You can get the AEM 380's for $125 on Ebay. I'd go that route for reliability.

If you really wanted cheap the 044 knock offs are $30. They flow great for the money. Buy yourself a 2 3-way pneumatic valves for $6 ea and run 3 of these pumps. For $90 nothing else comes close. Drill the feed out to -12 and you've got a monster fuel pump for under $100.

Buddy tested 2 in parallel at 13.5v @ 70psi they put out 95 gal/hr...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universa...dU18Tm&vxp=mtr

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Old May 11, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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That is a lot of plumbing, lol
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Old May 11, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
You can get the AEM 380's for $125 on Ebay. I'd go that route for reliability.

If you really wanted cheap the 044 knock offs are $30. They flow great for the money. Buy yourself a 2 3-way pneumatic valves for $6 ea and run 3 of these pumps. For $90 nothing else comes close. Drill the feed out to -12 and you've got a monster fuel pump for under $100.

Buddy tested 2 in parallel at 13.5v @ 70psi they put out 95 gal/hr...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universa...dU18Tm&vxp=mtr
good LORD. I am always weary of the external pumps, the noise, and heat makes me feel weak. But... credit where credit is due. I thought I was "good" with my $200 fuel system but this takes the cake at half the price.
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Old May 11, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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No more plumbing than running 2 really. And If you only have one pump running for cruise and have the other 2 kick on in boost it won't heat the fuel much. It will pull some amps though...
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Old May 11, 2016 | 05:17 PM
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Well, you can run them all in line with only one running and it won't struggle?
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Old May 11, 2016 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Taxman20
What Joe said,
Only difference is I went with Bosch 044 "non-knockoffs", Fuel lab FPR, Deka 80's. I also went with fuel rails, but have been told the stock rails will go pretty far for you.

From what I have read the 044 pumps flow better than Walbro's for higher hp numbers. .
The real ones, sure. The fake ones-not so much. I have seen several of them fail as well

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...pump-shootout/
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Any input for blow off valve, waste gate, boost controller? Leaning to make one of my piles of **** happen soon. Even have a rear mount turbo setup I'll be doing on a friends Silverado. Going to run a dedicated rear mount oil cell for the turbo as well.
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Old May 19, 2016 | 05:31 AM
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If you are on a budget, skip the boost controller. Try and find a good used (not china) WG and BOV in the classifieds.
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Old May 19, 2016 | 06:57 AM
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I use eBay boost controllers. Work fine.

So do the 50mm Tial knockoff BOVs. Squeeze has them for like $50.
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Have heard a knock off tial with a tial diaphragm is a hell of a way to go.

Not sure about the WG yet ether. Prefer a new cheap one if possible.
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Old May 19, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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I use a Tial knockoff BOV. I have absolutely zero complaints. If you look hard enough you can score them for $45 or so.

As for wastegates, it's a toss up. The main thing about a knockoff gate is the poor diaphragm quality. Most of them work excellent, but you have to be careful when changing springs or youll pinch them.

I did a write-up here on using a real Tial diaphragm in a knockoff gate after pinching mine while changing springs.
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Old May 19, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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I use knock off tial gates and BOV's, and i run a single walboro 450 with stock BMW lines, dekka 80's and made 800ish on pump and meth at about 95% DC
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Old May 19, 2016 | 01:36 PM
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$40 knock off tial bov

Look at this on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/191874063540

Brand New Blow Off Valve BOV 50MM with Aluminium Flange or Steel Flange Black
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